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05-08-2008, 01:57 PM
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What is wrong with it?
No one has ever really given me a proper argument as to why homosexuality is wrong. That's why I ask for one now. Please. Tell me.
The following are just uninformed, bigoted ramblings which hardly qualify as arguments:
- Religious reasons (Keep your fairytales to yourself, the vast majority don't give a rat's ass what they say.)
- It's not natural (It occurs within other species too, and as far as I know, the straight monkeys don't go around throwing their shit at the gay monkeys, unlike their human brethren. Besides, if you're going to be really anal about it, most things us humans do these days are by definition not natural.)
- It's not healthy (The prevalence of diseases like AIDS is due to a lack of information. In the case of gay men, only a minority are informed that while the chances of getting pregnant are pretty low, a condom would still drastically decrease the chance of contracting STDs. Heterosexual couples are much more like to use prevention, and thus they have fewer cases of things like AIDS. Anal sex has its cons, but then again, it's not like homosexuals are the only ones to practice it. Beyond that, there's absolutely nothing unhealthy about being gay, unless you count the amount of abuse some gets thrown at them.)
- They don't have to (True that. If you get to choose between an apple and an orange, while you love apples and detest oranges, you can still force yourself to choose the orange and eat it. Doesn't mean you like it. Likewise, homosexuals who are in heterosexual relationships are simply pretending, to satisfy the anal world that they live in. Homosexuals who have been "cured" have a nasty tendency of becoming depressed and often even killing themselves, due to the sheer pressure society puts on them.)
- Fags are [insert bogus here] ("Fags" are sexually and/or romantically attracted to the same sex. The differences end there. They're not a different species. They're just like you, except for one minor difference that should hardly matter to you unless you're a stalker who likes watching people having sex.)
Are there any more valid arguments out there? Or, is a lot homophobia simply based on the fact that it squicks you out?
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05-08-2008, 02:00 PM
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Personally, I don't care, but an argument could be made that anal sex is both unnatural and unhealthy. In that anal sex does cause bleeding, and that is not good either for the person or for society at large.
Don't have to accept it, but that is a decent argument.
Now, do I think that such an argument is great enough to make homosexuality illegal, no.
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05-08-2008, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TakuanSoho
Personally, I don't care, but an argument could be made that anal sex is both unnatural and unhealthy. In that anal sex does cause bleeding, and that is not good either for the person or for society at large.
Don't have to accept it, but that is a decent argument.
Now, do I think that such an argument is great enough to make homosexuality illegal, no.
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Well, seeing as anal sex is also fairly common among heterosexual couples, that would be utterly ridiculous.
I see your point though. Then again, anal is just one way to do it. Just like it is for heterosexuals.
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05-08-2008, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TakuanSoho
an argument could be made that anal sex is both unnatural and unhealthy. In that anal sex does cause bleeding, and that is not good either for the person or for society at large
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I don't know about you but everytime i do my wife's brother in the butt he takes it like a champ, and gas prices go down. So your point is FAIL.
Seriously though... you can't say that anal sex causes bleeding across the board. Now if the starting lineup of the Denver Nuggets wants to run a train on Elizabeth Smart while she is on a treadmill then you may have a point. Hmm... that's a good one, imma have to remember that during my intimate moments.
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05-08-2008, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Loa
Well, seeing as anal sex is also fairly common among heterosexual couples, that would be utterly ridiculous.
I see your point though. Then again, anal is just one way to do it. Just like it is for heterosexuals.
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Not really, leaving oral sex aside for the moment, anal sex is the ONLY way homosexuals can have sex, whereas heteros can have sex that way. So it is the difference between a potential and an absolute.
Again, you don't have to agree, but it is a rational argument, just not (IMO) a terribly convincing one.
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05-08-2008, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TakuanSoho
Not really, leaving oral sex aside for the moment, anal sex is the ONLY way homosexuals can have sex, whereas heteros can have sex that way. So it is the difference between a potential and an absolute.
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You're absolutely right. Anal sex is the only way for gay men to have sex if you leave out all other alternatives. That's completely true.
There are many possibilities if you don't get hung up on penetrative sex in some way.
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05-08-2008, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Loa
You're absolutely right. Anal sex is the only way for gay men to have sex if you leave out all other alternatives. That's completely true.
There are many possibilities if you don't get hung up on penetrative sex in some way.
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I left oral sex out because if homosexuality only included oral sex, I don't think it would be that big a deal. It probably still would be illegal, but that would be a sexual neutral law (in that it would apply to both heteros and gays). I think the same would apply if homosexuality was only non penetrative.
It is anal sex that most people think of when they think of homosexuality. That is the line in many peoples mind.
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05-08-2008, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TakuanSoho
It is anal sex that most people think of when they think of homosexuality.
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Not so, I think of effeminate lisps you big thilly man. The thing that makes me think about anal sex the most is a senate vote. Every time those page boys fall into formation my rectum winks like Michael J. Fox on a "bad" day...
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05-08-2008, 03:06 PM
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"I left oral sex out because if homosexuality only included oral sex, I don't think it would be that big a deal. It probably still would be illegal, but..."
All Republicants are closet homosexuals.
They don't come out because they think homosexuality is illegal.
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05-08-2008, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by A. Crowley
"I left oral sex out because if homosexuality only included oral sex, I don't think it would be that big a deal. It probably still would be illegal, but..."
All Republicants are closet homosexuals.
They don't come out because they think homosexuality is illegal.
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I like this guy... Just like I am a closet straight man. I don't come out because my gay parents would rape me.... well they would if I wasn't already over 18, which is in their words "icky".
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