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Old 05-20-2008, 09:57 AM
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Hmmmm. Most likely because there are people such as yourself in this world.



You equate justice for a percentage of people to that of murderers? You are wacked.

Homo's, as you call them, have every right to be protected by the law. They are human beings, and as such are afforded the same rights as everyone else. When people, such as yourself, infringe upon those rights! There are laws already in existence that protect people from slander, they were brought about by straight people.... How many laws have staright people created to benefit their personal lifestyle? Fuckin' no good for nothin' hetro's... Compare that to the gay community, and then get back to me.
You are dodging the issue.
If Homos think a stiffer punishment is a deterrent that will protect them, why not do that for all crimes?

You know the spin "Our prisons are full. The US has the largest prison population in the world. Stiffer sentences accomplish nothing"

Some Lawyers say that most people do not know they are committing a hate crime. That may be because Americans are under the impression they can have free speech and free thoughts, yet the punishment is three times worse than a Hetero murdering a Hetero for some crack money?

Americans want change!
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:06 AM
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The difference is that the first is most likely out of desperation, while the other is out of hatred of certain people. While killing for money could happen due to different kinds of pressure, killing someone else just because you don't like them is a sign of a truly unstable mind.
What the hell?
Any type of murder involves instability and hatred.

Murder ends with the same results every time, the color of skin, sexual orientation nor gender makes a difference.

You are doing a poor job of validating your hatred or discrimination against certain groups.

Heterophobia alert!!!!!
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:18 AM
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What the hell?
Any type of murder involves instability and hatred.
That's where you're wrong.

Most people who kill for money are cornered in one way or another. It's desperation, and humans can do a lot of things that they would never do otherwise if they're just desperate enough. If someone kills another human to steal their wallet, it's not out of hatred of that person, but because they're very, very desperate for money. Many hate themselves for it and regret doing such things.

Then there's hate crimes. Murders in this case. If you just randomly kill someone because they have a characteristic you don't like, it's not desperation. You're not cornered in life. You're just a twisted, unstable person.

I'm not saying that killing someone to steal their money is excusable. It's most definitely not. I'm just saying that killing when there's absolutely nothing in it for you beyond the unjustified hatred of the person you kill is even worse.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:00 PM
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Most people who kill for money are cornered in one way or another. It's desperation
So, targeting a rich person for murder is not hatred and is not as bad because it involves money?


When there's hate crimes. Murders in this case. If you just randomly kill someone because they have a characteristic you don't like
Like being rich, fat, skinny or ugly?

You're not cornered in life
Rich people would be cornered. They would not have hate crime protection as a deterrent.

You still have not explained why a white person killing a black person is any different than a black person killing a black person (Other than skin color)?
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:56 PM
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So... you think that a person would choose to live a life where they are persecuted, beaten, excluded, shunned, denied their chosen faith, automatically labeled as perverts, etc... for kicks? Most homosexuals (not the curious) can no more change their sexual orientation than a black man can change the color of thier skin.

They are different than you... period. Deal with it.
Hey moron....if people can quit smoking, then you can quit sucking di_ks. There is no little man inside your head with a hammer threatening to beat your brains out every time you refuse to suck on a wang. Dont hand us this shit that faggots are trapped in a faggot's world, because that just is not the truth of the situation. You faggots are spouting off anything and everything that will enable you to keep "group power" going, in the fashion of a street gang. You faggots smell a way to try to control society for your own sordid ends, and that is what your politics is based upon.

So!.....NOW!....TODAY.....you concoct this shit that you are trapped in the fags world with no recourse other than someone would have if they wanted to change their height? Their skin color? The color of their eyes? I dont think so! I think you are a lying sack of shit for trying to mislead the China guy with your deceptive bullshit.

To make it simple for you asshole.....sum it up in one phrase.......JUST SAY NO TO FAGGOTS and lo and behold, without even waving the magic wand.....you will be NORMAL again!!!!!

Now go chase yourself, and keep your hands off of the children.
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Hey moron....if people can quit smoking, then you can quit sucking di_ks. There is no little man inside your head with a hammer threatening to beat your brains out every time you refuse to suck on a wang. Dont hand us this shit that faggots are trapped in a faggot's world, because that just is not the truth of the situation. You faggots are spouting off anything and everything that will enable you to keep "group power" going, in the fashion of a street gang. You faggots smell a way to try to control society for your own sordid ends, and that is what your politics is based upon.

So!.....NOW!....TODAY.....you concoct this shit that you are trapped in the fags world with no recourse other than someone would have if they wanted to change their height? Their skin color? The color of their eyes? I dont think so! I think you are a lying sack of shit for trying to mislead the China guy with your deceptive bullshit.

To make it simple for you asshole.....sum it up in one phrase.......JUST SAY NO TO FAGGOTS and lo and behold, without even waving the magic wand.....you will be NORMAL again!!!!!

Now go chase yourself, and keep your hands off of the children.
Your intelligence is dizzying. First, I'm not gay. Second, you know nothing about me and are ill equipped to make any judgements about me, or anyone else.

Your first misconception is that Homosexuals are pedophiles. Not true. The incidence of pedophilia is NOT exclusive to any sexual orientation. Second, I don't care what your frightened little mind believes, most homosexuals have little choice in the matter. If they did, the presence of folks like you in the world would be a strong deterrent if it were indeed a "choice". Third, relationships may be just be giving in to base sexual appetites for you, but for those of us (gay or straight) that have normal, mature, stable sexualities (as opposed to your sophomoric approach), sex is just the icing on the cake. We form our partnerships on (mental) intimacy, trust, respect and cooperation. The fact that you reduce it to sucking d*ck or not shows how incredibly immature and short sighted (and crippled) you are in forming relationships. My sorrow goes out to any woman who makes the mistake of shacking up with you.

I won't go so far as to say that homosexuality is genetic, there have been no conclusive studies to date, but there is ample evidence pointing in that direction as a trigger or an influence at the very least. But I will say, with absolute certainty, that it is how their brains are wired. I have seen anecdotal cases of children who were abused by an adult of the opposite sex at an early age that can only form meaningful intimate relationships with their own sex later in life. This hints at behavioural modification from environmental events. I've also seen cases where young children were abused by adults of the same sex who lived troubled lives as straight adults fearing their past meant that they were gay. Ring any bells of suppressed memories with you Razzie?

As with any behaviour, normal or otherwise, it comes down to the brain and how it's wiring was put together. The brain is far more complicated than someone with your intelligence is capable of understanding, so you are excused your frightened hatred. Your brain is obviously not wired for acceptance of differences, tolerance or compassion unless they look and act just like you. IMHO, your lack of these qualities makes you a little outside the norm as well.

There is also ample evidence of homosexual behaviour in animals. Do they have a choice? Do they think... Ooooh look Jeremy... I'm so trendy and counterculture... Further evidence is that occasionally, some unfortunate folks are born hermaphroditic, which is absolutely genetic, and must choose which gender to be. Do they flip a coin? Is it not possible that certain systems in the body develop as male (or female) such as genitalia and others develop as female (or male) such as the brain?

Sorry, I know I'm making your head swim with all this scientific biology stuff... but if you can't inform yourself, you are doomed to be a cretin.

I think you just get pissed when you see a gorgeous woman who doesn't need a man... much less you. You probably have the same problem with white women being with black guys. Don't sweat it man, only ten percent are gay... the rest are all yours to attempt to victimize.

Look, homosexuality has been a part of the human condition since the dawn of time, and it will be with us until the end of time. Make peace with it and be on your way. There are far more pressing problems to deal with than your fear of homos.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:45 PM
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You could at least put a little bit of effort into comprehending what I'm saying.

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Most people who kill for money are cornered in one way or another. It's desperation
So, targeting a rich person for murder is not hatred and is not as bad because it involves money?
Killing rich people because you're desperate for money is not a hate crime. Killing rich people because you can't stand rich people is a hate crime.

The difference lies in that in the second scenario, there is no desperation involved. The killer's brain wasn't forced to change priorities under pressure. Therefore, they're unstable in their "regular" state.

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When there's hate crimes. Murders in this case. If you just randomly kill someone because they have a characteristic you don't like
Like being rich, fat, skinny or ugly?
Yes, you actually got it right. If you kill someone on the basis that they're rich, fat, skinny or ugly, and you don't like those characteristics, it is by definition a hate crime.

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You're not cornered in life
Rich people would be cornered. They would not have hate crime protection as a deterrent.
The economic issues are merely an example. Rich people could feel cornered due to other things.

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You still have not explained why a white person killing a black person is any different than a black person killing a black person (Other than skin color)?
I would've tried to explain that, if only I had ever claimed it.

A white person killing a black person is not necessarily a hate crime. It's a hate crime if the difference in skin color is the sole reason for the murder. If it happens for any other reason, it's not a hate crime. Do you get it now?
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:09 PM
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Your intelligence is dizzying. First, I'm not gay. Second, you know nothing about me and are ill equipped to make any judgements about me, or anyone else.

Your first misconception is that Homosexuals are pedophiles. Not true. The incidence of pedophilia is NOT exclusive to any sexual orientation. Second, I don't care what your frightened little mind believes, most homosexuals have little choice in the matter. If they did, the presence of folks like you in the world would be a strong deterrent if it were indeed a "choice". Third, relationships may be just be giving in to base sexual appetites for you, but for those of us (gay or straight) that have normal, mature, stable sexualities (as opposed to your sophomoric approach), sex is just the icing on the cake. We form our partnerships on (mental) intimacy, trust, respect and cooperation. The fact that you reduce it to sucking d*ck or not shows how incredibly immature and short sighted (and crippled) you are in forming relationships. My sorrow goes out to any woman who makes the mistake of shacking up with you.

I won't go so far as to say that homosexuality is genetic, there have been no conclusive studies to date, but there is ample evidence pointing in that direction as a trigger or an influence at the very least. But I will say, with absolute certainty, that it is how their brains are wired. I have seen anecdotal cases of children who were abused by an adult of the opposite sex at an early age that can only form meaningful intimate relationships with their own sex later in life. This hints at behavioural modification from environmental events. I've also seen cases where young children were abused by adults of the same sex who lived troubled lives as straight adults fearing their past meant that they were gay. Ring any bells of suppressed memories with you Razzie?

As with any behaviour, normal or otherwise, it comes down to the brain and how it's wiring was put together. The brain is far more complicated than someone with your intelligence is capable of understanding, so you are excused your frightened hatred. Your brain is obviously not wired for acceptance of differences, tolerance or compassion unless they look and act just like you. IMHO, your lack of these qualities makes you a little outside the norm as well.

There is also ample evidence of homosexual behaviour in animals. Do they have a choice? Do they think... Ooooh look Jeremy... I'm so trendy and counterculture... Further evidence is that occasionally, some unfortunate folks are born hermaphroditic, which is absolutely genetic, and must choose which gender to be. Do they flip a coin? Is it not possible that certain systems in the body develop as male (or female) such as genitalia and others develop as female (or male) such as the brain?

Sorry, I know I'm making your head swim with all this scientific biology stuff... but if you can't inform yourself, you are doomed to be a cretin.

I think you just get pissed when you see a gorgeous woman who doesn't need a man... much less you. You probably have the same problem with white women being with black guys. Don't sweat it man, only ten percent are gay... the rest are all yours to attempt to victimize.

Look, homosexuality has been a part of the human condition since the dawn of time, and it will be with us until the end of time. Make peace with it and be on your way. There are far more pressing problems to deal with than your fear of homos.

Society has no need of faggots, and doesnt have to like them or accept them. You are a faggot. You chose the life. Now you have to accept the consequences. Society does not love faggots....only faggots and fag hags love faggots. Get used to it. If you cant take the heat, then go back in the closet where you belong.
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Get used to it. If you cant take the heat, then go back in the closet where you belong.
Yeah, Razzie knows all about that.
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Society has no need of faggots, and doesnt have to like them or accept them. You are a faggot. You chose the life. Now you have to accept the consequences. Society does not love faggots....only faggots and fag hags love faggots. Get used to it. If you cant take the heat, then go back in the closet where you belong.


I love how you completely ignore how the poster tells you he is not gay.

More clear, concise evidence that you are no more than a repressed, pathetic liar.
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