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05-16-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Free_with_rules
Marriage is a socially sanctioned union, typically of one man and one woman, in this connection called husband and wife. Typically they form a family, socially, through forming a household, which is often subsequently extended biologically, through children. It is found in all societies, but in widely varying forms.
- Homosexuality is wrong because it involves sex that doesn't create NORMAL life.
same-sex households are not an adequate environment for children to be raised in. Others simply do not recognize any pressing need for same-sex marriages
Nature provides that children are conceived through heterosexual intercourse. The most basic unit of society - the family - is based on biology not ideology.
Children need male and female role models for their nurture. It is in the order of nature that the ideal has been defined.
Being gay is not natural. Real Americans ™ always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home
Gay marriage will change the foundation of society
People do not hate homosexuals, they just believe that what they do is wrong.
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Many children grow up without parents and/or with only one parent.What children need is being raised by someone that loves them and looks out for them while teaching them to survive in society.
Many children succeed without having two parents.
Blow jobs are wrong because it involves sex that doesn't create normal life?
Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay is an idiotic concept.
So legalizing gay marriage will lead to beastiality?
Right,One who wants to fuck dogs is holding off untill gay marriage is legal.lol
Gay marriage may change the foundation or more truthfully what some claim is the foundation of society.
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05-16-2008, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Free_with_rules
Marriage is a socially sanctioned union, typically of one man and one woman, in this connection called husband and wife. Typically they form a family, socially, through forming a household, which is often subsequently extended biologically, through children. It is found in all societies, but in widely varying forms.
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Well, for almost all history and for almost all societies, girls were largely more like property than people, so they became the means to create economic bonds between men. By providing another man with a virgin, he could gain a favor, property, peace, an alliance. For the most part, it was only for the purpose of establishing the bond between two families or tribes that marriages took place. For a power man, gifting him with multiple virgins was obviously beneficial for all.
For the unimportant, what would be the point of marriage. An unwanted woman, or a woman with no man to benefit from her marriage, why bother with the expense of marriage; simply take the woman without obligation.
Or if an enemy has been routed, rape his girls and women to reinforce his defeat.
So, the bottom line is that marriage had nothing to do with love, family, morality, but it had to do with business and power between men.
So, as you have created a fairytale history for your view of marriage, everyone else should have equal rights to their own fairytales.
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05-16-2008, 04:59 PM
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I honestly cannot work up enough interest to comment on this inane topic.
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05-17-2008, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FreedomForWho
In the country of the United States of america it certainly does. I have nothing wrong with a homosexual couple wanting to have a relationship, but it is their constant nagging at the heels of society to accept them more. It really is rediculous, they don't want marriage because they have a right to it, they want same sex marriage to help develop homosexuality as a norm.
I am registered as a democrat but this is one of the many things I despise my party for doing.
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I have no desire to be "accepted" by you or society! I could care less about what a bunch of unhappy bigots feel! Especially one who claims he knows what my personal "motivation" is for wanting to marry the love of my life!
I am very happy with who I am! It has NOTHING to do with acceptance. It has everything to do with EQUAL RIGHTS!
"In the United States, the Bill of Rights is the name by which the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution are known. They were introduced by James Madison to the First United States Congress in 1791 as a series of constitutional amendments, and came into effect on December 15, 1791, when they had been ratified by three-fourths of the States. The Bill of Rights limits the powers of the Federal government of the United States, protecting the rights of all citizens, residents and visitors on United States territory."
The rights of ALL citizens not SOME!
We are a Professional couple, hardworking tax payers yet we are legally treated as "lesser citizens" Heterosexuals can marry who-ever they want, when and where ever they want (with the added bonus of a tun of legal rights to go with), then turn around and file for divorce the next day.
This is not about religion either. I am not asking to be accepted by people who believed God died and they are now obligated to take over "the role" but in a twisted judgmental way.
For one second, look beyond your "ridiculous remark" and imagine what it would feel like if you were not able to marry the love of your life!? So it's OK if you want a relationship of this person, but marriage, oh no, we will not allow you too! The only ridiculous thing here is our "take over the world theory"
EQUAL CITIZEN = EQUAL RIGHTS!
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05-17-2008, 07:09 AM
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You have stated you dont want society.
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Originally Posted by HappilyMarriedLesbian
I have no desire to be "accepted" by you or society! I could care less about what a bunch of unhappy bigots feel! Especially one who claims he knows what my personal "motivation" is for wanting to marry the love of my life!
I am very happy with who I am! It has NOTHING to do with acceptance. It has everything to do with EQUAL RIGHTS!
"In the United States, the Bill of Rights is the name by which the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution are known. They were introduced by James Madison to the First United States Congress in 1791 as a series of constitutional amendments, and came into effect on December 15, 1791, when they had been ratified by three-fourths of the States. The Bill of Rights limits the powers of the Federal government of the United States, protecting the rights of all citizens, residents and visitors on United States territory."
The rights of ALL citizens not SOME!
We are a Professional couple, hardworking tax payers yet we are legally treated as "lesser citizens" Heterosexuals can marry who-ever they want, when and where ever they want (with the added bonus of a tun of legal rights to go with), then turn around and file for divorce the next day.
This is not about religion either. I am not asking to be accepted by people who believed God died and they are now obligated to take over "the role" but in a twisted judgmental way.
For one second, look beyond your "ridiculous remark" and imagine what it would feel like if you were not able to marry the love of your life!? So it's OK if you want a relationship of this person, but marriage, oh no, we will not allow you too! The only ridiculous thing here is our "take over the world theory"
EQUAL CITIZEN = EQUAL RIGHTS!
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You said you dont want to be accepted by society. I say society has no need to accept you in the first place. Very well, then you dont need any of the protections of the constitution guaranteed to our society. Simply get out, get lost, and find someplace else to go where it is all queers. You cannot force society to love all of the queers. They dont have to do it.
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05-17-2008, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Monger
You said you dont want to be accepted by society. I say society has no need to accept you in the first place. Very well, then you dont need any of the protections of the constitution guaranteed to our society. Simply get out, get lost, and find someplace else to go where it is all queers. You cannot force society to love all of the queers. They dont have to do it.
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Gee, I don't like you either. That means you should lose your rights and get lost, because I don't like you. You never did anything wrong, but I personally think you should move to Antarctica and found "Tardland". All tards will move there, because I think they should. You'll be the King Tard.
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05-19-2008, 02:30 PM
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fr Razzputin:
>...In my camp, we are calling for the execution of all pedophiles.....and we consider f*** pedophiles as well.<
Well, your "camp" is completely wrong, as the Dept of Justice stats state that 99.99% of all molesters are STRAIGHT males, often married and with kids of their own, who I have immense pity for.
Get a clue, get educated, and grow UP.
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05-19-2008, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FreedomForWho
Marriage is used by governments to help protect it's investments within society and to promote prosperity.
You get the legal title of marriage along with Tax cuts and the like because you can produce a family for the good of the country. A gay couple is useless to the country, because they cannot procreate.
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Then I am willing to support any law that prevents anyone without children from becoming or staying married. If you can't reproduce, you don't get the license.
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05-20-2008, 01:12 PM
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Then if you feel that way about it, why dont you form Faggolandia there too?
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Originally Posted by Loa
Gee, I don't like you either. That means you should lose your rights and get lost, because I don't like you. You never did anything wrong, but I personally think you should move to Antarctica and found "Tardland". All tards will move there, because I think they should. You'll be the King Tard.
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Then if you feel that way about it, why dont you form Faggolandia there too?
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05-20-2008, 01:13 PM
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Talk to the clinics that treat sex offenders. They say most indicate HOMO!
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Originally Posted by Alex51
fr Razzputin:
>...In my camp, we are calling for the execution of all pedophiles.....and we consider f*** pedophiles as well.<
Well, your "camp" is completely wrong, as the Dept of Justice stats state that 99.99% of all molesters are STRAIGHT males, often married and with kids of their own, who I have immense pity for.
Get a clue, get educated, and grow UP.
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Talk to the clinics that treat sex offenders. They say most indicate thenselves to be HOMO! I am more inclined to believe the clinics that treat convicted sex offenders, than I would be to believe you.....you the undocumented sex offender at large.
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