Originally Posted by FreedomForWho

There is much credible research which shows that homosexuality has a negative affect on children.

... that 8.9% of children in homosexual households became homosexual while only 2.4% of the children raised in heterosexual households became homosexual. In a subset of those studies, extracted because they reflect developed, not merely developing, homosexual orientation, Cameron found that 13.9% of the children raised in homosexual households became homosexual.

*Greater risk of sexual involvement with a parent. Twenty-nine percent (29%) of those raised by at least one homosexual parent reported having sex with the homosexual parent. Less than one percent (0.6%) of the children of heterosexual parents reported having sex with one of their parents.
*Greater risk of social or psychological problems. A disproportionate number of children reared in homosexual households experienced gender dissatisfaction, and other problems associated with the family environment. These problems included:
-children feeling betrayed by their parents;
-divorce and single parenthood
-children being orphaned due to short homosexual life span.


The notion that all ‘family forms’ are equally as helpful or healthful for children has no basis in science. …There is no fact that has been established by social scienceliterature more convincingly than the following: all variables considered, children are best served when reared in a home with a married mother and father.

In addition, a high percentage of homosexuals were molested as children by same-sex predators—and this fact alone could endanger children if placed in homosexual households. A study published in 2001 by Tomeo, Templer,
Anderson, and Kotler, surveyed 942 adults and compared molestation rates between heterosexuals and homosexuals. They found that 46% of gay men and 22% of lesbians reported homosexual molestation in childhood compared to 7% for heterosexual men and 1% of heterosexual women in the sample. According to What is particularly intriguing about this study was that 68% of the men and 38% of the women did not identify as homosexual until after the molestation.

My arguement above is that homesexual households are an unsuitable life for children, and thus offer our society no benefit. Given that unstable legal climate, it is certain that some self-possessed judge, somewhere, will soon rule that three men and one woman can marry. Or five and two, or four and four. Who will be able to deny them that right? The guarantee is implied, we will be told, by the Constitution. Those who disagree will continue to be seen as hate-mongers and bigots. How about group marriage, or marriage between relatives, or marriage between adults and children? How about marriage between a man and his donkey? Anything allegedly linked to "civil rights" will be doable. The legal underpinnings for marriage will have been destroyed.

All are goals of the homosexual movement, hidden from the public eye. They use America's compassion against itself, all to remove the normality we have in place. A normality they hate due to years and years of abnormality.

Originally Posted by wolf_22

Answers to Your Questions About Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality
APA Policy Statement on Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children
APA Public Interest Directorate: Research Summary on Lesbian and Gay Parenting
The kids are all right

all of your sources have been dubunked and are not acredited.

further more we've alreayd discused the issues of marriages between anyone but two consenting adults who aren't related.

children and aminals can't consent.
our system is set up for two-party marriage and polygamy does have (at times not always) some abuse involved because its typically done in a sepertist religious setting where the marriages are forced.
incest once again typically involves rape and can lead to unhealthy offspring.
further more its not just heterosexist, but misogynistic to suggest that marrying the same gender is like marrying an animal or child

people made the same arguments with inter-racial marriage. its been almost 30 years and society hasn't fallen apart.
most of us know children of mixed race couples and they do fairly weel (some bullying as children, but many are healthy adults now) and some of us even know children raised by gay parents.

its proven that children with straight parents who are abusive or neglectful do much worse than children raised by non-straight married parents (including by other relatives)
its proven that even children of single parents have issues during youth but are just as successful as people from 2-parent homes once they reach adulthood.
its also been proven that children with a large extended family who is activly involved in their lives do better (takes a village)

once again, you skip the issue of infetile straights and heterosexual married people who won't reproduce.

Originally Posted by wow

Homos are spreading AIDS and destroying the US healthcare system.
Homos are 8 to 10 times more likely to rape a child.
There is nothing good about Homos, they are murdering innocent Americans.

Originally Posted by wow

Homos are spreading AIDS and destroying the US healthcare system.
Homos are 8 to 10 times more likely to rape a child.
There is nothing good about Homos, they are murdering innocent Americans.

Originally Posted by wolf_22

Answers to Your Questions About Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality
APA Policy Statement on Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children
APA Public Interest Directorate: Research Summary on Lesbian and Gay Parenting
The kids are all right

all of your sources have been dubunked and are not acredited.

further more we've alreayd discused the issues of marriages between anyone but two consenting adults who aren't related.

children and aminals can't consent.
our system is set up for two-party marriage and polygamy does have (at times not always) some abuse involved because its typically done in a sepertist religious setting where the marriages are forced.
incest once again typically involves rape and can lead to unhealthy offspring.
further more its not just heterosexist, but misogynistic to suggest that marrying the same gender is like marrying an animal or child

people made the same arguments with inter-racial marriage. its been almost 30 years and society hasn't fallen apart.
most of us know children of mixed race couples and they do fairly weel (some bullying as children, but many are healthy adults now) and some of us even know children raised by gay parents.

its proven that children with straight parents who are abusive or neglectful do much worse than children raised by non-straight married parents (including by other relatives)
its proven that even children of single parents have issues during youth but are just as successful as people from 2-parent homes once they reach adulthood.
its also been proven that children with a large extended family who is activly involved in their lives do better (takes a village)

once again, you skip the issue of infetile straights and heterosexual married people who won't reproduce.

Originally Posted by wow

Homos are spreading AIDS and destroying the US healthcare system.
Homos are 8 to 10 times more likely to rape a child.
There is nothing good about Homos, they are murdering innocent Americans.

Originally Posted by FreedomForWho

To me, they have not been debunked. There is no evidence to suggest that the proper study enviornment was not in place for the studies of Paul Cameron. His bias is irrelevant as long as his evidence is credible. To me, our current "Organizations for the foundation of intelligence" are not the proving grounds for study. Time and time again, history repeats itself in the era of error. How about a few philosophers have been discredited, later only to find that their prosecuters were those who were wrong?

Galileo Galilei
christopher columbus
Socrates
And many more.

Current belief in an infinite study, is largely over-rated.

Since you support APA, are you against or for the works of freud?

Alright, consider this, all other arguements irrelevant. Any arguement for same-sex marriage is an argument FOR polygamy.

Do you dispute that?

Originally Posted by FreedomForWho

To me, they have not been debunked. There is no evidence to suggest that the proper study enviornment was not in place for the studies of Paul Cameron. His bias is irrelevant as long as his evidence is credible. To me, our current "Organizations for the foundation of intelligence" are not the proving grounds for study. Time and time again, history repeats itself in the era of error. How about a few philosophers have been discredited, later only to find that their prosecuters were those who were wrong?

Galileo Galilei
christopher columbus
Socrates
And many more.

Current belief in an infinite study, is largely over-rated.

Since you support APA, are you against or for the works of freud?

Alright, consider this, all other arguements irrelevant. Any arguement for same-sex marriage is an argument FOR polygamy.

Do you dispute that?

Originally Posted by wolf_22

yes I do.
same sex marriage is almost identicle to heterosexual marriage. its two people getting married for whatever reasons (hopefully love) and trying to live a pleasent life.

polygamy is multible people. our system isn't made for that. it would be a legal ngihtmare.
there is also a lot of abuse in those marriages. and typically they are tied to religion and have no secular purpose.
(I know of some secular polyamorous people. they are happy and don't wish to have legal marriages. and also don't have the same rates of abuse as religious polygamy)

same sex marriage is the inter-racial marrriage of our time. we're broadening the types of pairs adults can make through marriage, but not actually donig anything to the basics of marriage.

as far as the APA goes, I trust their research and I'm apt to follow them, the AMA, and their fellow branchs. (american pediatrics has the same views on gay parents)
freud, I have disagreements with him. but he was practing a long time ago. its not fair to compare someone with that little of technology to people of today. I hate when people do that.

while I know life experiences aren't acredited, I can say that I'm bi and know many gay people. I have friends with gay parents. I have gay friends who don't have kids yet, but might one day (and they've done well when they babysat for extra money in highschool).
and I do have a feeling you don't know anyone who is gay or any families with gay parents. you listen to a doctor who was fired and nothing else.