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01-27-2008, 09:03 PM
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Answer to what?....that "they" will continue to push a wholesale policy shift in every conceivable area? all over what?...a sexual preference?
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01-27-2008, 09:24 PM
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Answer to what?....that "they" will continue to push a wholesale policy shift in every conceivable area? all over what?...a sexual preference?
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Gays have been around forever, what 'morality' are you talking about? There is no 'pushing' anything. You are spouting out rhetoric and morality that bases logic on "the first gays on earth were discovered by anthopologists/socialogists in 1954 with the finding of ONE Inc. v. Oleson court briefs." Homosexuality has been around longer than the Bible...way longer, it is part of the human condiction...there is really not much more to say. Maybe this is the unexplained thing where God tries to make you think instead of reacting in a kneejerk way. Maybe he really needs you to think about distinguishing between sexual preference v. underaged sex or abusive sex (homophobes love to link these two things together).
I can be rest assured my reading and awareness of gay issues when compared to morality is way past your narrow and dated understanding. I have a younger brother who is gay and I did do some reading on this (have over the past 20 years)...it might be enlightening for you to know he voted for George Bush twice, he is very conservative. Try to explain that? Can you cover that with your view of 'morality'?
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01-27-2008, 11:19 PM
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Not really....You think we have reached a "age of enlightenment"?..only when nations have reached a point like ours, or the Greeks, Romans all of them...not at war, plenty of food...education..perverts are free to "express" themselves.
Every religion ever devised by man has as a tenet of it's faith that homosexuality is forbidden. Why is that?...because it is inherently amoral and unhealthy. We can learn to deal with it..but this whole GLBT agenda will ultimately be pushed back.
There cannot be rights ascribed to a group of people that choose to engage in a particular sexual act. To try and tie in "Gay Rights" as something akin to the "civil rights movement" is utterly absurd.
GLBT's can try and try..with the Episcopalians and all the rest...in time the health issues of the perverted way of sexual gratification will once again be the reason as it always has throughout time that they will be shunned by society once more.
As our country slips deeper into this cesspool of pop culture we will see the GLBT's rise up...thats nothing new. It has always been repulsed and it always will...that is basic instinct.
These people represent a dead end....there is no future if you are GLBT..just sadness, pain and ultimately a very lonely life. Because no matter how "accepting" people may be..deep down you know it's wrong......we all do. And they know it also.
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01-27-2008, 11:31 PM
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Not really....You think we have reached a "age of enlightenment"?..only when nations have reached a point like ours, or the Greeks, Romans all of them...not at war, plenty of food...education..perverts are free to "express" themselves.
Every religion ever devised by man has as a tenet of it's faith that homosexuality is forbidden. Why is that?...because it is inherently amoral and unhealthy. We can learn to deal with it..but this whole GLBT agenda will ultimately be pushed back.
There cannot be rights ascribed to a group of people that choose to engage in a particular sexual act. To try and tie in "Gay Rights" as something akin to the "civil rights movement" is utterly absurd.
GLBT's can try and try..with the Episcopalians and all the rest...in time the health issues of the perverted way of sexual gratification will once again be the reason as it always has throughout time that they will be shunned by society once more.
As our country slips deeper into this cesspool of pop culture we will see the GLBT's rise up...thats nothing new. It has always been repulsed and it always will...that is basic instinct.
These people represent a dead end....there is no future if you are GLBT..just sadness, pain and ultimately a very lonely life. Because no matter how "accepting" people may be..deep down you know it's wrong......we all do. And they know it also.
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You have your views. 'Perverts' have never taken down nations. Overzealous leaders do, how they try to extent their reach far beyond what is capable. Homosexuality did not take down the Roman Empire. Did perverts take down the Nazis from within? Hitler was basically celibate and they were the most ardent repressors/killers of 'sexual deviants' in the history of the world. They went down the fastest...can you explain this? Your comparisons make no sense at all.
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01-28-2008, 12:45 AM
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Never said anything about taking down nations....what i said is, when people are free from war...and there is plenty of food, water etc....they become complacent. Start to explore new and different things...being GLBT is a folly allowed by a complacent..humble..understanding community. When push comes to shove, there will be no thought given to these people.
They are a parasite feeding off of the organization. They cannot reproduce, so what can they offer to assure the long term survival of the nation?
Thats why in every country that has been in war..Italy, Japan, Germany etc....guess who was the first to go?
Thats right...these types..the needy, sick..etc..it's instincts...survival...they enjoy relative freedom now....but if there was a crisis..you bet your bottom dollar nobody would give two shits about 'em.
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01-28-2008, 10:58 AM
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Oh yeah, do a little research into "Who" re-wrote the findings. I have, and the findings are based on Many Openly Gay Lesbians with a PHD.
The APA has been over run with Gays/Lesbians with an agenda for Queer acceptance.
Thats like the Criminally Insane setting their own guidelines for sentencing themselves to no Jailtime..
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01-28-2008, 12:01 PM
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Never said anything about taking down nations....what i said is, when people are free from war...and there is plenty of food, water etc....they become complacent. Start to explore new and different things...being GLBT is a folly allowed by a complacent..humble..understanding community. When push comes to shove, there will be no thought given to these people.
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Then what was the reaction to the Franco-Prussian War all about? France got defeated but then started to embrace diversity after the 1870s. I am not sure you know your history too well my friend.
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01-28-2008, 02:49 PM
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This argument is about what? Gays molest and beat more children than Straight couples? I know that is not fact, I can't think of even on spot statistic that would prove that to begin with?..
Lets drop the shit and use fact when discussing this. Something both asshated sides of this argument refuse to.
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01-28-2008, 03:10 PM
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No..but you cannot expect to have sexual perverts raising a child and expect that child not to also have a perverted outlook on life and sexuality...pretty simple to me.
Nature requires a man and woman to create a child, to raise it also requires the unique strengths and weaknesses of each parent.
To think that a same sex couple could achieve that is beyond reasonable argument and falls into a politically correct realm where logic is scarce and "rights" and other non-sense are advanced.
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01-28-2008, 03:27 PM
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No..but you cannot expect to have sexual perverts raising a child and expect that child not to also have a perverted outlook on life and sexuality...pretty simple to me.
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When did homosexuals become 'sexual perverts'? That is a new on me pal...
Probably the biggest denouncement that NAMBLA was faced with was from the gay community.
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