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Old 09-04-2006, 04:09 PM
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Interesting how people who are not born in the USA cannot become president. Why can't they? Isn't that racist?

no it is not racist. race has not a thing to do with where you are born and everything to do with what race your parents are.
In France Muslim women cannot even cover their hair in Public schools.....Here in the US that would be called a civil rights violation
Do you recall the riots in France recently? Mostly French Algerians upset with their treatment in France........face it Europe is xenophobic and Euro-centric, In Europe the common belief is that only European societies are civilized.
What about how people of turkish decent are treated in Germany? Does not sound like tolerance is a European virtue........the holocaust also occured in Europe 6 million Jews and 6 million others slaughtered. What about colonizing the whole damn world in the 1600's-well in to the 20th century?
face it Europe is the beacon of racism in the world.
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:06 PM
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Scooby, NO
Those are the good Muslims. Sorry if you are so focused on bashing Muslims that you will not acknowledge that there are people who are both good Muslims and good Americans
Sorry, but that is an Oxymoron. No true Muslim could ever be a good American because should he have to choose, Islam would have to be his choice over America. To not do so would not be in keeping for what a good Muslim would do.

I saw many convert to Islam in prison because it was popular to do so, not out of any heartfelt religious fervor. Maybe it is just me, but before I put my face on the ground and ass in the air to pray to anybody, I am going to have to mean it.
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:12 PM
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I think Dom1 should be more sensitive with his comments about terrorism. Firstly, that is no result from racism commited by Brits, or from the UK not assimilating people correctly. But it is a result from the war in Iraq and (dare I say it) closer relations with the US. For example, Spain were attacked for the same reason.

Moreover, those are not examples of racism; British people (in general) despite some problems (I don't deny they exist, they are certainly a problem), accept other races in this country. And today there are few racist incidents, and it is not acceptable. Furthermore, the UK doesn't have large racist political parties, e.g. the most famous National Front in France.
Evidently the British citizens who committed these acts of terror and who tried to commit other acts of terror weren't too well assimilated into western society. If they were they wouldn't try to kill people because they are 'westerners'. Or do you call it assimilation when a good percentage of a immigrant population wants to kill westerners?

You point to racial riots in the US (compared to Europe) in another post and yet you leave out the numerous riots in Paris. Strange.

Didn't the World Cup have to make special rules this year saying that if fans from any team started yelling racist comments that the team would be penalized. They even said they were making them because a European country was hosting. Why would this be a new rule if Europe was so accepting of others? They even talked about it with Africans who played for European teams and they said it was conduct from opposing teams fans and their own fans which were bad. Doesn't sound quite as enlightened as you lead us to believe.
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:18 PM
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Sorry, but that is an Oxymoron. No true Muslim could ever be a good American because should he have to choose, Islam would have to be his choice over America. To not do so would not be in keeping for what a good Muslim would do.

I saw many convert to Islam in prison because it was popular to do so, not out of any heartfelt religious fervor. Maybe it is just me, but before I put my face on the ground and ass in the air to pray to anybody, I am going to have to mean it.
You are not a Muslim, so you are not qualified to tell me what a Muslim is. Is you are a Muslim hater and never miss an opportunity to bash Muslims and Islam. I have read the Noble Quaran for myself in Arabic and nowhere have I found that it is haram to consider yourself a Muslim American. Much to your dismay the Muslim American community is growing, and successful. Sorry if that makes your hate mongerer self upset
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:26 PM
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Isn't General Abizaid a Muslim?
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:31 PM
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Isn't General Abizaid a Muslim?
Christian Lebonese I think.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:30 PM
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You are not a Muslim, so you are not qualified to tell me what a Muslim is. Is you are a Muslim hater and never miss an opportunity to bash Muslims and Islam. I have read the Noble Quaran for myself in Arabic and nowhere have I found that it is haram to consider yourself a Muslim American. Much to your dismay the Muslim American community is growing, and successful. Sorry if that makes your hate mongerer self upset
Like I said, Muslim Americans would be and feel as out of place in an Islamic Theocracy and American Blacks would feel in the Sudan. Especially American Muslim women. Those are not the Muslims I really give a shit about. They are like the hippies of the 60s. It is "cool" thing to be. Just like the ones who converted to Islam in Prison.
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Old 09-05-2006, 05:26 AM
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Dear Dom1, in my comments I was attempting to defend British conduct with other races not European conduct as a whole. And Great Britain is an island, it is not the same as continental Europe.
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Old 09-05-2006, 05:32 AM
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Again, the examples as to why Europe has a problem with racism are not from the UK (except the terrorism example). When France banned religious articles in schools indeed there was a wave of shock and disgust in the UK. I shall repeat, the UK and France are not the same.

However, those who were responsible for killing innocent British lives, were muslim, and these Muslims were not offended by how they were treated within the Kingdom, but how they perceive British foreign policy to be wrong.
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Old 09-05-2006, 05:56 AM
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If we are to give historic examples of racial misconduct, the Slave Trade was abolished in Britain in 1807 and slavery itself was abolished in 1833. Whereas, slavery was abolished as late as 1865 in the USA. Even then, there were so many people who still supported slavery in the USA, that a civil war was fought over it.

What about the genocide America committed against the American Indians. US President Andrew Jackson: " the only good Indian is a dead Indian."

Indeed racial segregation (Jim Crow Laws) lasted up until the 1960s in America, and Americans committed many lynchings against racial minorities.

The Holocaust occured because a minority of nerotic people, were able to play on the suffering of the German nation due to the Weimar Regime (which was a result on the US, Great Britain and France being too tough in the Treaty of Versailles). The German people didn't know about it until the end of the war.
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