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I wouldn't argue against any of the points you made above. However, I would say that when quality of life is taken into account, citizens of Western European nations win everytime. They have more vacation, better food, excellent transit and better education.
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WHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ASTA LAVISTA BABY
we don't need no education
we don't need YOUR thoughts control
NO dark sarcasm in the forum
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11-09-2006, 11:05 AM
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Never happen without an all out civil war .
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I have bad news, it's already happening and the average American could care less. They ignore the overwhelming evidence, claim their politicians would never do such a thing to us and write it all off as just one more scare tactic or wacko conspiracy theory.
North American Union to Replace USA?
Building a North American Community
The North American Union (From a Canadian perspective)
I have a letter I received recently that I'll post in another thread. I already posted it once but so many people were so wrapped up in their election garbage that few paid attention to it. Perhaps now that the election is over, it may get read, at least by a few.
But, we won't be seeing that civil war you mentioned. Americans just don't have the backbone for it anymore. |
11-09-2006, 11:20 AM
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I have bad news, it's already happening and the average American could care less. They ignore the overwhelming evidence, claim their politicians would never do such a thing to us and write it all off as just one more scare tactic or wacko conspiracy theory.
North American Union to Replace USA?
Building a North American Community
The North American Union (From a Canadian perspective)
I have a letter I received recently that I'll post in another thread. I already posted it once but so many people were so wrapped up in their election garbage that few paid attention to it. Perhaps now that the election is over, it may get read, at least by a few.
But, we won't be seeing that civil war you mentioned. Americans just don't have the backbone for it anymore. |
Don't discount the real americans, we have "THE ETHICS of the FATHERS"
AND the power of THE spirit.
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11-09-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kix
I have bad news, it's already happening and the average American could care less. They ignore the overwhelming evidence, claim their politicians would never do such a thing to us and write it all off as just one more scare tactic or wacko conspiracy theory.
North American Union to Replace USA?
Building a North American Community
The North American Union (From a Canadian perspective)
I have a letter I received recently that I'll post in another thread. I already posted it once but so many people were so wrapped up in their election garbage that few paid attention to it. Perhaps now that the election is over, it may get read, at least by a few.
But, we won't be seeing that civil war you mentioned. Americans just don't have the backbone for it anymore. |
I think that Americans must awake themselves and become more informed.
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11-09-2006, 04:20 PM
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I don't understand why the EU was so controversial for so long; I mean in France, the Maatstricht treaty was signed in 94, making france an official member of the EU, but it was long fought about before getting signed. The US wouldn't even join the League of Nations, President Wilson's baby. Why is it hard for the world to comply to international standards? I think the US could only benefit from a competitor as large as the EU- I think it'll be a long time though before the EU outdoes us on the global economic stage. They are far too socialist to compete just yet.
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11-09-2006, 05:34 PM
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I don't understand why the EU was so controversial for so long; I mean in France, the Maatstricht treaty was signed in 94, making france an official member of the EU, but it was long fought about before getting signed. The US wouldn't even join the League of Nations, President Wilson's baby. Why is it hard for the world to comply to international standards? I think the US could only benefit from a competitor as large as the EU- I think it'll be a long time though before the EU outdoes us on the global economic stage. They are far too socialist to compete just yet.
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The problem is that to join any club you have to agree to it's rules and give up a part of your indviduality and sovernity. The US I hope will continue to be the decieder of it's own fate.
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11-09-2006, 07:40 PM
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The Germans pay about half of what they make in taxes, so they can support their medical coverage, education and other such programs.
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I'm aware of that. Obviously, there is a trade off for them if they pay higher taxes. Personally, I don't think that type of system would work here. |
11-10-2006, 10:26 AM
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I'm aware of that. Obviously, there is a trade off for them if they pay higher taxes. Personally, I don't think that type of system would work here.
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I don't want that type of system at all. I am also not for national healthcare. But I am for insurance companys to provide low cost coverage though. Low cost coverage with coupled with what the goverment programs are providing for the poor should be enough, but saying that I am not sure programs are out there. 
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11-15-2006, 02:10 PM
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After the "super-states" are formed, they can join into one.
Yuck! We non-blue-bloods lose (for now...).
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11-15-2006, 02:15 PM
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I don't think any real American who believes in competition really begrudges the Eu's Rise as an economic power, it's good for business. Creates opportunities both for Americans and Europeans
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