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Old 08-31-2006, 09:44 PM
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que tout pensez-vous au Québec ? Que pensez-vous de la cause de séparatiste au Québec ?
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Old 08-31-2006, 09:48 PM
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i am sorry! i did not really think about what i was typing. i meant to ask what you all think of Quebec and the separatist movement their?
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i am sorry! i did not really think about what i was typing. i meant to ask what you all think of Quebec and the separatist movement their?
It will never happen! But my favorite singer is from Quebec, Celine Dion. Especially her songs sung in French before she became Americanized. I worship the water she walks on. Hell! I'd probably even kill for her, so watch yourself Vincent. If she said to take you out, you would be gone!
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It will never happen! But my favorite singer is from Quebec, Celine Dion. Especially her songs sung in French before she became Americanized. I worship the water she walks on. Hell! I'd probably even kill for her, so watch yourself Vincent. If she said to take you out, you would be gone!
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que tout pensez-vous au Québec ? Que pensez-vous de la cause de séparatiste au Québec ?

I love Quebec but only know it from a purely visitors eye and not the politics. What do you think of the separatist movement?
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Old 09-01-2006, 03:24 PM
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i think Quebec has every right to secede. they are a completely different culture from the rest of Canada. although if they did Canada would probably fall apart into the different provinces.
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I disagree, Vincent... The Supreme Court of Canada, in Reference re Secession of Quebec, [1998] 2 S.C.R. 217 clearly stated that Quebec has no unilateral right to secede. That being said, of course Quebec has it's own unique culture... but so does Newfoundland. So does Nova Scotia and British Columbia - every province is different from the others, some more than others. It's the same with the First Nations as well. That's the strength of the Canadian federation - we can take all these diverse strands from all over the world and weave them together... but instead of becoming a "melting pot" and having them meld into a new society, each preserves it's own identity within the common framework.

Quebec is the cornerstone of the Canadian federation - they're what the country was built on... a Canada without Quebec is as meaningless a concept as a Quebec without Canada - neither can exist apart from the other. It's akin to the South within the US - without it there, the country is meaningless.

Sovereigntists come and go... whether it's Lévesque or Parizeau or Bouchard, they each come and strut their time on the stage and wave the Fleurs-de-Lis and whip up Quebec nationalism, but they all end up crushed and defeated by the Canadian reality. Quebec will never separate - sovereignty is just a hopelessly romantic dream held by a misguided few.
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Besides, why would Quebec want to separate when they essentially run the country in the first place? Since Trudeau became Prime Minister on April 20, 1968 Canada's Prime Minister has been from Quebec for 95% of the period since... from Trudeau to Mulroney to Chrétien to Martin, Quebec Prime Ministers have dominated Canadian politics - and yet Quebec still feels alienated? *L* Gimme a break.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:12 PM
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i was just asking what you thought about Quebec and its separatist movement. anyways the maritime provinces and Quebec are very separate from the rest of Canada because of the langauge and cultural boundary. although the Maritime Provinces who speak Acadian are quite far from any other one of the Canadian provinces.
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i was just asking what you thought about Quebec and its separatist movement. anyways the maritime provinces and Quebec are very separate from the rest of Canada because of the langauge and cultural boundary. although the Maritime Provinces who speak Acadian are quite far from any other one of the Canadian provinces.
Vincent - I think you're over-emphasizing the differences, though... like I said before, Canada is a mosaic of unique and differing cultural groups... and as much as Quebec separatists like to play up the idea of "two solitudes" - Anglophone vs. Francophone, that's not the reality on the ground - that's not even the reality in Quebec. A Montreal Quebecer is as different from a Saguenay Quebecer or a Nunavik Quebecer as he is from a Torontonian or a Nova Scotian Acadian.

That's the philosophy of Canada - we're not a melting pot like the US. We don't expect new immigrants to submerse their culture into the greater whole. Like everything, though, that has it's good side and it's bad side - the price for preserving our cultural diversity is that it's harder for Canada to develop a sense of national identity in the same way the US does, which opens the door for threats like Quebec separation.
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