The Revolution may flare in Europe.

noneof yourbusiness · #51 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 01:23 AM

have another pie Dom

Sam · #52 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by satv365

The EU is a conglomeration of European Nations. Thus like comparing, NAFTA to CAFTA. The United States Economy is the big boy on the block,

Of course the EU with its 27 member nations has already surpassed the US in cooperative production with a combined GDP of $14.45 trillion in 2007. No wonder the Euro is devaluing the dollar so efficiently. There is no doubt the EU is a conglomeration of nations and that as a single country the ZUS is the economic leader..however...no throne is ever 100 percent secure for life. True, the US continues to profit from huge consumption spending but high trade deficits and federal debt are perched to trump that and destroy our meager 2 percent annual growth rate.

Those with the attitude that the US is an unalterable superior economic power to all may need to think beyond just "we are the big boy on the block"

Sam · #53 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

There are spertaists in the Basque commiity. Some are militant. They are not of any particlaur religion. It was Doms bigotry that was trying to pin every war on the Muslims. The bombings in Spain were serpratists and the link to Al qeada was simply Bush admin fabrication.

Spain struggles with who to blame | csmonitor.com

Deep divisions over Madrid verdict | csmonitor.com

Well I must admit I thought the Spanish train bombing were all militants and I assumed they were muslim....some articles are saying the separatists played a part in this. This thread is going in so many directions , maybe we need a new one on the train bombings. I really never followed this story beyond the initial attacks.

Did you know a Portland, Oregon lawyer was falsely accused and jailed over this attack?

So does anyone have a clear link on the guilty verdicts and the affiliations of the accused in the train bombings? I know it swayed the election in Spain.

noneof yourbusiness · #54 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 01:52 AM

Perhaps they were Muslim. But doesn't mean they wernt basques. It also doesnt link them to Al qeada. Bush admin has linked everybody to AL qeada. That means nothing.

Sam · #55 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Perhaps they were Muslim. But doesn't mean they wernt basques. It also doesnt link them to Al qeada. Bush admin has linked everybody to AL qeada. That means nothing.

Read the first article..it does seem there was a controversy. They jailed a Portland lawyer over the bombings and accused him of being part of al Quaeda.

Sam · #56 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 02:02 AM

Read this.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...ndon_mayfield/

Spain struggles with who to blame | csmonitor.com

noneof yourbusiness · #57 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 02:13 AM

"Basque separatist group ETA"

So either way. Dom is wrong. LOL. he claimed these poeple were Muslims comnected to al qeda...I asaid the were Basques. Now the ETA orgnasation was said to have linked t Alqeda/

So either the Basques aren't All catholcis...or They are LMFAO..not...and no Catholic is going to hook up with OBL no matter what.

satv365 · #58 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Folks. The basques are not the Middle ages anymore. Wikipedia doest matter. You can not walk up to that region and just tell me those people are all of one religous belief. They arent. Your talking long gone history. That simply doesnt apply.

Remmeber that wikipedia is an open source page. And many articles are updated..contesteted and so fort. That is a processe. either way it just doent hold true. Now. for teh 100th time. Do has swtiched this over time to suti his needs. He is lying about the orginal convrsation and modifed owrds and posts as well. Perhaps his fat ass is having delusions brought on by Sugar overdose.

There are spertaists in the Basque commiity. Some are militant. They are not of any particlaur religion. It was Doms bigotry that was trying to pin every war on the Muslims. The bombings in Spain were serpratists and the link to Al qeada was simply Bush admin fabrication.

If you want to be specific...

Basques are either Catholic or Non-Religious. The ETA is a Left Wing organization, regarding it's political ideology. The goal is to set up a Socialist State in the Basque regions of France and Spain.

The ETA has no ties to Al Qaida, at all. They have ties to the IRA, and The Third Emsav, Meibion Glyndŵr, The Free Wales Army, Various Scottish, Cornish and Galo militant organizations.

They may very well have distant, if not irrelevant connections to Islamic Groups through the IRA. But the IRA has not been in Contact with Islamic Jihad Groups for some time.

Yes, I know quite a bit about modern European Politics. It has been a topic of interest for me, for the last few months.

noneof yourbusiness · #59 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 03:55 AM

wikipedia doesnt know shit. its hardly and end all be all of info. There are tons of cases of incorrect and purposefully misleading info. The investigation articles Sam shed the proper light on this.

Dom1 · #60 (**permalink**) 03-26-2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

"L" I knew this thread would get funnier if I waited and checked back in. In general, I do believe what most posters say about themselves online. This is a cyber discussion forum and just like I believed you, Dom, when you said you are a history teacher in Indiana with 5 children, who has a side business flipping houses and I believe NOYB if he says he was born in Germany.... sure anyone could lie online, yet in the entire scheme of life if I take people on an internet discussion for their word and someone fibs, I have not lost much.Anyway, when it gets down to it ,it is really about exchanging opinions and ideas and I like hearing it all.

Now Dom you have missed some very funny threads if you like hairy armpit jokes...one commie meeting we had SN and NOYB worried about MIM dancing on tables with hairy armpits. You must have missed all the Wal mart jokes and short fat human race jokes...they were all in fun and just jokes.

Now as far as whips and chains...hmmm...Crow is in charge of the commie meeting themes...we have done big hair 80's bands and Austin Powers ,so maybe we could do whips and chains for our next meeting. I might opt out of the action and just take notes...actually...I just remembered I will be in Costa Rica on Friday so I will miss the next commie meeting !

I just laugh because you don't have a very good sense of humor. Here is the thing, a statement was made as a joke and you somehow take it personal. Imagine sitting around and someone says a one liner and your response is a short diatribe on how the joke is not applicable anymore . . . . . I bet that is a hit at parties.

Actually, the whips and chains reference referred to when you and KNOB had a light hearted discussion about him using whips and chains on you . . . . you didn't seem to mind.

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Thers the deal. If you say you work in Public school then have posts that range in hhours over a normal school days. Your a liar.

other hand there is no way dom would know about my personal hisotry or orgins

Tell me, what do YOU know about my history? You seem to think you are well versed. You aern't from Europe you fucking liar.

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Originally Posted by satv365

Basques are Catholics. They never where conquered by the Muslims in Islamic Spain. So they where Christian since Rome Spread it to Iberia.

Also, they are the only Native Speakers of Non-Romance Languages on the Iberian Peninsula.

Basque people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Basque language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is not one Ethnic Basque recorded as being Muslim in all of history.

Of course Basques are Catholic, KNOB just fucked up and cannot and will not admit he was dead ass wrong. Instead he stuck to his story and a couple of times he made the claim he never said it - he is full of shit - just like he is full of shit about being European.

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Originally Posted by Sam

That is true. Maybe he was thinking of the Eta which has affiliated with muslim and other terrorists groups including the IRA..kind of the enemy of the enemy is my friend for the Eta. I thought they were originally blamed for the train bomb in Spain , although I did not follow this closely at the time.

Anyway, almost every poster here has made some mistakes.

True, every poster does make mistakes. Big difference is that KNOB still says it isn't a mistake. Get it?

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Folks. The basques are not the Middle ages anymore. Wikipedia doest matter. You can not walk up to that region and just tell me those people are all of one religous belief. They arent. Your talking long gone history. That simply doesnt apply.

Remmeber that wikipedia is an open source page. And many articles are updated..contesteted and so fort. That is a processe. either way it just doent hold true. Now. for teh 100th time. Do has swtiched this over time to suti his needs. He is lying about the orginal convrsation and modifed owrds and posts as well. Perhaps his fat ass is having delusions brought on by Sugar overdose.

There are spertaists in the Basque commiity. Some are militant. They are not of any particlaur religion. It was Doms bigotry that was trying to pin every war on the Muslims. The bombings in Spain were serpratists and the link to Al qeada was simply Bush admin fabrication.

Bigotry had nothing to do with it you fuckhead. You always call someone a bigot or racist if they disagree with you, which is pretty fucking weak.

I didn't switch anything over, liar. You are still claiming the Basques are Muslim, which shows you don't know all that much about Europe, eh? Maybe if you could have been stationed in Spain or Portugal you would have known this.

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

"Basque separatist group ETA"

So either way. Dom is wrong. LOL. he claimed these poeple were Muslims comnected to al qeda...I asaid the were Basques. Now the ETA orgnasation was said to have linked t Alqeda/

So either the Basques aren't All catholcis...or They are LMFAO..not...and no Catholic is going to hook up with OBL no matter what.

No, all I claimed is that the Basaques weren't Muslim you simple fuck.

YOU said the Basques were Islamic, which was flat out wrong. Keep sticking with that story you dipshit.

As far as no Catholics ever hooking up with OBL, maybe. But the IRA DID hook up with terrorist groups in the 80's. Or did the European expert not know that either?

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

wikipedia doesnt know shit. its hardly and end all be all of info. There are tons of cases of incorrect and purposefully misleading info. The investigation articles Sam shed the proper light on this.