The fucked up logic here is that the Serbs whom were wll known for there mass rapes and buitchery like there Russian mentors.....are okay cause they arent Muslim and causse of the perception of them being supoprted by clinton.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

Nope, although that does stick in my craw...I was thinking more along the line of, why would the Western Powers choose sides with what is essentially Muslim/Nazis? Whose Past History shows them to be even worse than the S/S
ever was...

Is it because Russia supports the Serbs? Their Record isn't any better either...

What kind of "Politics or Reason" controls this situation, I wonder?

Take care.

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Why does everyone always sleep on Russia? In WWII, Stalin had the country up and running within 5 years with the highest GDP. Without the USSR's help, the U.S. wouldn't have been able to defeat the German might. Does anyone actually think that if push comes to shove, Putin wouldn't do the same? That's a grave mistake.

I've never once tried to sleep on Russia. Honest R/L. But now that you bring up Russias Rise again in the World stage, do you think we'll ever see a dime of the money we sent them during WWII?

Hundreds of $Millions sent on the Lend/Lease Program...And Stalin never even gave us a kiss, after he screwed us.

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Are you going to ask Europe to repay the U.S. also for lend/lease??? How about asking them to repay us for the Marshall Plan too, while you're at it??!!! You greedy Americans, always worrying about your money Stalin wouldn't want to kiss you anyway, you're just not good enough for him

Well, Stalin did take a dozen or so Eastern European Nations and half of Germany as war booty. So I think he did OK, after the war.

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Declaration of Independence
"Never trouble another for what you can do for yourself."
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"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand."
Milton Friedman

True satv365; but it's not like the U.S. was really hurting for money after the war, Realist1. Money is something it had, what it needed was trading partners. The whole reason for Marshall aid was to secure future trading agreements. It's all about the benjamins baby.

It may have been, but the underlying principle to learn about the end of world war 2 is the shift in America's Foreign Policy to that of aggressive interventionism, that directly leads to things like 911 or anti-American regimes in Iran, Iraq, etc.


Russia, on the other hand. Has little to say or do to deter anyone. Kosovo, I think will remain an independant nation with or without Serbia's or Russia's blessings. Regardless of any imagined or perceived interest Russia has in Kosovo independance.

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"It is the Right of the People to alter or abolish the Government"
Declaration of Independence
"Never trouble another for what you can do for yourself."
Thomas Jefferson
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand."
Milton Friedman

But where do you think the “aggressive interventionism” comes from? It comes from a need to make money by trading and establishing businesses elsewhere in the world. It is simply used as a cloak to cover up for a less impressive reason of moneymaking.

Russia actually has more say and control than you think. For starters, it’s on the UN security council with veto power, which it will always utilize in this case. If you don’t like the UN (don’t worry, I don’t much care for it either), let’s go to simpler reasons—national interest. Every conflict can be stemmed from this point. Russia, is not only a backer of Serbia due to mainly cultural reasons, but more importantly, it is seeing an opportunity to expand its oil and gas markets in the region. Kosovo disrupts this, and as long as the Serbs have a problem with this, they will always have Russian backing. Before Serbia ever allows an independent Kosovo, a war will erupt, and depending on how bad it gets, Russia will inevitably send troops to back Serbia. Kosovo may think it’s independent for now, but this will not last. Eastern Europe is like a dormant volcano, and though it hasn’t erupted in a while, does not mean that it is inactive. It’s just a matter of time.

You think Russia can take on the United States and the European Union? Which is gonna be the case if Russia intervenes.

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"It is the Right of the People to alter or abolish the Government"
Declaration of Independence
"Never trouble another for what you can do for yourself."
Thomas Jefferson
"If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand."
Milton Friedman