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11-29-2007, 01:20 AM
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Yes, I think investment for R&D in renewable energy, alternative fuels, efficient technology, and climate engineering is essential for the future, and far more effective than cutting CO2 emissions. The best way to do this would be to cut the corporate tax from 38% to something like 15%. Some say the government should fund the R&D but I don’t believe the government has a good track record in energy development.
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The technology you see in many places that is being devoloped right now is from labs like Oakridge or MIT who are working with the government through that type of funding. It has been this way for many things, the governemtn works in many ways you are not realizing; in collaboration with others....they actually have great track record in this regard.
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We also have to recognize that global warming is not the only problem facing humanity, it’s not even the most dangerous problem facing humanity. Some of the problems include malnutrition, diseases (especially HIV/AIDS), sanitation, impure drinking water, etc. And it’s easy to say, “we should work to solve all those problems” and I agree, but as you are aware financial resources are limited so we have to ask “which problems do we solve first? Logically we should try to solve the problems were the money will do the most good, investing $1 to help prevent the spread of AIDS or reduce global hunger will do a lot more good that spending the same $1 to cut CO2 emissions. Click here for more. |
Hmmm...all these problem and we are still out stripping what can provided for mankind with overpopulating the planet every year. The numbers of people are not going down on the planet, if they were I might be worried about the problems you outline...they are not.
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11-29-2007, 05:31 PM
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The technology you see in many places that is being devoloped right now is from labs like Oakridge or MIT who are working with the government through that type of funding. It has been this way for many things, the governemtn works in many ways you are not realizing; in collaboration with others....they actually have great track record in this regard.
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If you look around you the vast majority of the technology you see was developed in the private sector by individuals perusing their self interest. Click me
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Hmmm...all these problem and we are still out stripping what can provided for mankind with overpopulating the planet every year. The numbers of people are not going down on the planet, if they were I might be worried about the problems you outline...they are not.
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The planet’s growing populations is the solution, not the problem. Every individual born has the potential to be another Albert Einstein, Louis Pasteur or Norman Borlaug. The more people born, the more brains are available to solve the world’s problems. Click here for more
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11-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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[quote=coyote;261573] If you look around you the vast majority of the technology you see was developed in the private sector by individuals perusing their self interest. Click me
pursuing self interests and the government's track record of success and failure are two different things.
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The planet’s growing populations is the solution, not the problem. Every individual born has the potential to be another Albert Einstein, Louis Pasteur or Norman Borlaug. The more people born, the more brains are available to solve the world’s problems. Click here for more |
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11-29-2007, 06:17 PM
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pursuing self interests and the government's track record of success and failure are two different things.
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What is the government’s track record in regards to energy?
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The planet does not have have an infinite number of resources.
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The sun doesn’t have an infinite supply of energy but that is meaningless as far as the population of this planet is concerned. The same rule applies to the number of resources on the planet.
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11-29-2007, 06:23 PM
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The sun doesn’t have an infinite supply of energy but that is meaningless as far as the population of this planet is concerned. The same rule applies to the number of resources on the planet.
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The sun energy part I agree with
but your last sentence is fucking ridiculous!!!
If the population grows indefinitely, eventually there would not be enough consumable resources available for everyone....even if the entire planet were devoted to only feeding humans, eventually we run out of land and potable water.....
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11-29-2007, 06:24 PM
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well the satalite photos of the polar regions cant be faked. So that enough for me. The water rise is not faked either.
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11-29-2007, 06:32 PM
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The sun energy part I agree with
but your last sentence is fucking ridiculous!!!
If the population grows indefinitely, eventually there would not be enough consumable resources available for everyone....even if the entire planet were devoted to only feeding humans, eventually we run out of land and potable water.....
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That is an interesting part of the comment...
There was a report about water rationing in Atlanta that is happening right now. It was sdetermined the lack on water is just TOO MANY people in one place that the underground aquifer cannot handle. This is TOO many people, nothing else is involved. |
11-29-2007, 06:34 PM
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LETS DISTRACT THEM WITH THE GLOBALONY TRICK
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11-29-2007, 06:42 PM
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That is an interesting part of the comment...
There was a report about water rationing in Atlanta that is happening right now. It was sdetermined the lack on water is just TOO MANY people in one place that the underground aquifer cannot handle. This is TOO many people, nothing else is involved.
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I don't understand how anyone could possibly imagine that the human population can keep expanding indefinitely, while this remains the only known planet that can support human life....
Getting off the planet somehow would be a way around that, but that is still science fiction....
....I've been reading different things about Atlanta, but so far all I've seen is blaming the drought.....that's interesting Cat....but not really surprising....
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11-29-2007, 10:46 PM
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What is the government’s track record in regards to energy?
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Given is only a partial listing that has come through NASA, there are energy related innovations throughout. I can go to the other government labs and get more for you but I think that would be way too long a post for you to read. I really don't think you know what you are talking about here.
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Research and Development at NASA
Health and Medicine
Ingestible Thermometer Pill Aids Athletes in Beating the Heat
Space-Proven Medical Monitor: The Total Patient-Care Package
From Planetary Imaging to Enzyme Screening
Transportation
Damage-Tolerant Fan Casings for Jet Engines
Steering Aircraft Clear of Choppy Air
Advanced Air Data Systems for Commercial Aircraft
NASA Helps Design the ‘Cockpit of the Future’
Public Safety
Water Vapor Sensors Go Sky-High to Assure Aircraft Safety
Clean Water for Remote Locations
Fire-Resistant Reinforcement Makes Steel Structures Sturdier
Feeling Well Rested and Wide Awake When it Counts
Consumer, Home, and Recreation
X-ray Device Makes Scrubbing Rugs Clean a Spotless Effort
A Match Made in Space
Affordable Space Tourism: SpaceStationSim
Preventing Ice Before it Forms
Microspheres in Plasma Display Panels
Look Sharp While Seeing Sharp
Raised Relief Mars Globe Brings the Red Planet Closer
Modern Exploration of the Lewis and Clark Expedition
Reflecting on Space Benefits: A Shining Example
Environmental and Agricultural Resources
PRP: The Proven Solution for Cleaning Up Oil Spills
Progressive Plant Growing Has Business Blooming
FLIPPER: Validation for Remote Ocean Imaging
Paper-Thin Plastic Film Soaks Up Sun to Create Solar Energy
Saving Space and Time: The Tractor That Einstein Built
Computer Technology
A Predictive Approach to Eliminating Errors in Software Code
Scheduling Software for Complex Scenarios
Difficult Decisions Made Easier
The Echoes of Earth Science
GPS Eye-in-the-Sky Software Takes Closer Look Below
A History of High-Performance Computing
Industrial Productivity and Manufacturing Technology
Cryogenic Cooling for Myriad Applications—A STAR Is Born!
Temperature Sensing for Oil, Gas, and Structural Analysis
Robust, Thin Optical Films for Extreme Environments
The Cutting Edge of High-Temperature Composites
Nano Goes Magnetic to Attract Big Business
Laser Mapping for Visual Inspection and Measurement
Electrical Conductivity in Textiles
Spatial Phase Imaging
Miniature Wireless Sensors Size Up to Big Applications
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