"You are like a trained dog. Ralph Nader, while I respect some of the work he did in the '60's has become little more than a characture of the man he once was."

>>>I don't think Nader overly concerned about your respect. Me either.

The debate will never be over as long as we allow politicians to use
it as a red herring or a straw man. The truth is and we all know it,
"We will always look for ways to keep our planet healthy." But, the
debate debacle is only egomaniacs stroking their egos. We, the
voters, are the enablers. We enable them to focus attention only
on issues that cannot have an immediate fix, as opposed to real
daily issues that concern us on a personal level.

You’re wrong Heckler, if you look at the historical data you can divide the history of air pollution into to parts, the “period of perception” p(P) that is the period of which a substance in the air gains sufficient notoriety or be perceived as an air pollutant by the public and policymakers. Than there is the “time of federalization” t(F) which is the time the federal government appropriated regulatory authority to itself for the pollutant in question.

Trends in the various indicators after p(P) but before t(F) shows that there was little importance of federalization in improving air quality. Would you like me to give you some examples?

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Yes, examples would be good.....thanks

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