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11-15-2007, 10:28 AM
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Just remembering the good ol' days.... 
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Right and the air quality in Puget Sound has gotten cleaner in the last 30 years.
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11-15-2007, 10:32 AM
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Right and the air quality in Puget Sound has gotten cleaner in the last 30 years.
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It doesn't help that there is no mass transit system, such as in other large cities. |
11-15-2007, 10:45 AM
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It doesn't help that there is no mass transit system, such as in other large cities.
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The air quality has impoved in all large cities over the last 30 years. If you want more mass transit the government should privatize the roads.
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11-15-2007, 10:49 AM
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The air quality has impoved in all large cities over the last 30 years. If you want more mass transit the government should privatize the roads.
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The air quality has improved only because of government imposed standards. |
11-15-2007, 11:29 AM
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The air quality has improved only because of government imposed standards.
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No, the air quality was improving before the Clean Air Act.
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11-15-2007, 12:31 PM
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No, the air quality was improving before the Clean Air Act.
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Due primarily to technological advances along with state and local controls. |
11-15-2007, 03:03 PM
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Due primarily to technological advances along with state and local controls.
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The technology advances came about due to market demand. It seems that you’re conceding that the Clean Air Act wasn’t necessary.
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11-15-2007, 03:33 PM
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The technology advances came about due to market demand. It seems that you’re conceding that the Clean Air Act wasn’t necessary.
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How so? Even with the Clean Air Act, industries such as oil refineries, power plants, among others, have still produced pollutants at an illegal level. The fines are generally woefully inadequate. Then there's the "legal" way, waivers here, relaxing of standards there, usually traceable back to bribes, er, donations to a particular party or individual. Technology is fine, but some standards need to be set, imperfect as they are. For, in the world of big corporations, greed is king, the health of citizens very much secondary. |
11-15-2007, 03:37 PM
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The technology advances came about due to market demand. It seems that you’re conceding that the Clean Air Act wasn’t necessary.
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That's fucking hilarious....nothing would have changed without government regulations....
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"If you must declare a debate over, then maybe it's not."
>>>At least Gore didn't proclaim "debate over" from an aircraft carrier.
Btw, John Stossel is a nazi.
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