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04-05-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
If I am willing, as a private citizen, to give money by whatever means to the candidate of my choice why is that a bad thing? Everyone on the left screams about the NRA but what about the NEA? What about the American Medical Association, or the Association of Trial Lawyers or any of the other left leaning lobby groups. All of those get their money through private individuals. If, as a citizen, I can't support my candidate how does that make it better for me?
As far as fund raising for all candidates is concerned its early yet. You people act like the election is in two weeks rather than in 20 months. We may all convert to Islam by then and decide to appoint a Caliph
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Its more of teh balme democrats nonesnece. Give your trailor to bush. He wil park it with the others in the FEMA lot.
Any lobbying is bribary and does not serve the interests of the country. |
04-05-2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness
Its more of teh balme democrats nonesnece. Give your trailor to bush. He wil park it with the others in the FEMA lot.
Any lobbying is bribary and does not serve the interests of the country.
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Well, not only can't you spell (hint, its TRAILER and BRIBERY and NONSENCE and BLAME) but you can't understand simple post. I wonder how you possibly get through the verbiage spewed out by Sam for example. Not once did I say anything about blaming anyone, I said that I had no objection to anyone giving money to any political candidate.
Lobbying has been a fixture of this government since 1833 and not likely to go away. Personally, I also find nothing wrong with lobbying since it is a way I can get my message in front of my elected officials. Do you really think your representative will read 10,000 letters or emails? No, but if one lobbyist, representing the views of 10,000 constituents speaks to the representative then your views are aired.
By the way, the only reason I bring up spelling is because of your obvious innuendo that anyone who is a Republican is stupid and lower class. At least I can usually spell.
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04-05-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Well, not only can't you spell (hint, its TRAILER and BRIBERY and NONSENCE and BLAME) but you can't understand simple post. I wonder how you possibly get through the verbiage spewed out by Sam for example. Not once did I say anything about blaming anyone, I said that I had no objection to anyone giving money to any political candidate.
Lobbying has been a fixture of this government since 1833 and not likely to go away. Personally, I also find nothing wrong with lobbying since it is a way I can get my message in front of my elected officials. Do you really think your representative will read 10,000 letters or emails? No, but if one lobbyist, representing the views of 10,000 constituents speaks to the representative then your views are aired.
By the way, the only reason I bring up spelling is because of your obvious innuendo that anyone who is a Republican is stupid and lower class. At least I can usually spell.
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Lae spelling. Blah blah. Its a forum im not bothering with typing on it. Deal with it. It gives a conveint out from adressing the context of the statement. Its benfeical for you for me to type fast and ignore the mistakes see. So your welcome. SISSY!!!
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04-05-2007, 02:50 PM
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Lae spelling. Blah blah. Its a forum im not bothering with typing on it. Deal with it. It gives a conveint out from adressing the context of the statement. Its benfeical for you for me to type fast and ignore the mistakes see. So your welcome. SISSY!!!
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To put this in the same intellectual level as most of your post
Aw yur mudda wears combat boots
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04-05-2007, 02:51 PM
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Lae spelling. Blah blah. Its a forum im not bothering with typing on it. Deal with it. It gives a conveint out from adressing the context of the statement. Its benfeical for you for me to type fast and ignore the mistakes see. So your welcome. SISSY!!!
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Now numbnuts can you respond to the issue of the value of lobbying without resorting to profanity or insults?
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04-05-2007, 03:22 PM
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To put this in the same intellectual level as most of your post
Aw yur mudda wears combat boots
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balh blah just a cheap dodge |
04-05-2007, 03:23 PM
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Now numbnuts can you respond to the issue of the value of lobbying without resorting to profanity or insults?
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I diod alread fuckheadl. If you dont read or cant. Then thats not my problem. AQgain all you can do is red direct the issues into persoanl attacks and whiing cause I caled your wittle baby ass a coward. CRY motherfucker
No lobby has any value. Its pure corrutption it does serves the individuals not the citzens. |
04-05-2007, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
If I am willing, as a private citizen, to give money by whatever means to the candidate of my choice why is that a bad thing? Everyone on the left screams about the NRA but what about the NEA? What about the American Medical Association, or the Association of Trial Lawyers or any of the other left leaning lobby groups. All of those get their money through private individuals. If, as a citizen, I can't support my candidate how does that make it better for me?
As far as fund raising for all candidates is concerned its early yet. You people act like the election is in two weeks rather than in 20 months. We may all convert to Islam by then and decide to appoint a Caliph
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>>>You should be able to donate up to a certain amount as an individual. No unions, no PACS, no corporations, no businesses, and definitely no foreigners. Individuals only. Up to $500, maybe. |
04-05-2007, 08:35 PM
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>>>Government-supported elections??? You're not ever going to get Republicans to support that. But I'd support just about anything to get rid of AIPAC.
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Not goverment suported. Just no money. No ads no debates don dinner parties. Just people using P.S.A's to talk about there platform. |
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