They were never in the party . . . hence the name Reagan Democrats. I think they are like the blue dogs now.

Don't know about the religious right, but it seems that the die-hard conservatives on this site would still vote for Rudy - at least, that is what they have said.

rudy is the man for me

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Gix... again you know shit about NOTHING.... Bill Clinton was one of the most moderate presidents in history. Liberals like me had TONS of issues with Clinton.

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Can a centerist have an opinion, I am a moderately conservative Democrat or Blue Dog, a lot of people just call themselves Independents, but I still cling to the idea, that someday our ture democratic party will be wrestled away from the far left liberals. I vote no party line, well at least nationally I don,t. Like I have said our state is 70% democrat and if you wish a voice locally, you must vote on issues. The majority of us are somewhat strong on defense and like low taxes, as this is a blue collar state. But we usually toe the party line in local elections.

Being in the center, when considering the alternatives, Rudy is the most likely to earn my vote. The other canidates in our party have very liberal roots and run to the center only at election time, ie. THE CLINTONS, for she most likely will get my parties indorsement and I simply refuse to be taken in again by this mad dash to the middle. If she would have stood her ground on recent voting records, she would actually have not been to far from my fringe voting requirements of a semi liberal. And I know absolutely nothing about Obama, for he has not much of a national record. So, unless Independent JOE decides to run, it looks like Rudy. I'm not a republican, but I believe one can see more and more running to center now a days, with some of the mismanagement issues of lately by the Ultra conservatives. bd

Can you tell me the last time ANY LIBERAL LEGISLATURE GOT PASSED? We live in mostly far right country at present and there doesn't seem to be any stigma against the far right... except that they got their ass handed to them in November when their cluster-fuck of an admistration was shown to exactly what it is... WRONG.

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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

John Adams from the " Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

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Well if you cosider this very conservative, you just can't remember the Reagan years. The only thing that balanced the entire thing out was the house and senate, I would have hated to have seen the result with total domination, like it has been up until this past year, with the current administration. It could be worse, believe me, a lot worse. BD

I hate to follow my own thread, but I had one more thought alone the lines of the last post. As long as people keep voting for the same old tired ideas senators and congressmen, our party will never gain total power again, for any length of time, due to the fact that most people in this country are centerist, also. However having said this, they did makes some good moves in this last election, with several gains toward the middle. BD

these issues are of no concen to me, as I have posted in the past and stated my reasons for nonconcern. I only worry about a strong defense and taxes. The reast of the issues can be worked out within the boundaries of our own country. BD