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02-22-2007, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHarshTruth
You remind me of military and religious figures stridently denouncing gays in the hopes they'll convince themselves they aren't gay.
I'm not saying you are gay but ... I wouldn't be surprised if you vote for Obama!
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Well, stranger things have happened, but I hope I don't throw away America's future by voting for Obama...
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02-23-2007, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Izdaari
Why do you think he's a Muslim?
The story about him going to a madrassa when he was a kid turned out to be bogus. Got something else?
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PSSSSSSST! To 1.2 BILLION Muslims if your father is a Muslim YOU are a Muslim. What do you think his name is Irish?
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02-23-2007, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by case
Is this some kind of joke? What does his name have to do with anything? where does it say that he is Muslim? His from Chicago....big deal. He use to be a crack smoker, everyone has a past including the current president, wasn't he an Alcoholic/ druggie. Only God, is without sin...so get over yourself. His black, that is so racist. And Bush had no experience of his own, but was elected twice. So everything u think is a bunch of SHIT.
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Alcohol is LEGAL. Where is crack legal? OH wait..............South Side of Chicago. My bad.
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02-23-2007, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Still Dizzy
PSSSSSSST! To 1.2 BILLION Muslims if your father is a Muslim YOU are a Muslim. What do you think his name is Irish?
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Yeah, and I'm Jewish because my mother was (by religion, not ethnicity). Except that I was raised Christian and deliberately chose to be Christian once I was old enough to decide. If I run for president are you going to claim I'm Jewish?
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02-23-2007, 05:37 AM
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Just because he is Muslim doesn't make him Islamic
Just like you being Jewish(race) doesn't make you Jewish (Religion)
People just need to get over his race.
He will lose because AMERICA will not vote a black president in. Not being racist just pointing out a fact.
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02-23-2007, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal
Just because he is Muslim doesn't make him Islamic
Just like you being Jewish(race) doesn't make you Jewish (Religion)
People just need to get over his race.
He will lose because AMERICA will not vote a black president in. Not being racist just pointing out a fact.
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I don't see why America wouldn't vote in a black president. They've voted in black senators and governors. Maybe you think America is a much more racist country than I do.
And btw, as I said above, my mother was a Jew by religion, not by ethnicity. So no, I'm not Jewish(race) or Jewish(religion). But as I understand, my mother being a Jewish convert still makes me eligible for Israeli citizenship... not that I have the slightest interest in claiming it. But no doubt some of these silly people would claim that makes a secret Zionist stealth candidate. (Even though if I were, I wouldn't be secret about it. I am in fact very pro-Israel, it isn't a secret, and in this country it's an electoral advantage.)
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02-23-2007, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Izdaari
I don't see why America wouldn't vote in a black president. They've voted in black senators and governors. Maybe you think America is a much more racist country than I do.
And btw, as I said above, my mother was a Jew by religion, not by ethnicity. So no, I'm not Jewish(race) or Jewish(religion). But as I understand, my mother being a Jewish convert still makes me eligible for Israeli citizenship... not that I have the slightest interest in claiming it. But no doubt some of these silly people would claim that makes a secret Zionist stealth candidate. (Even though if I were, I wouldn't be secret about it. I am in fact very pro-Israel, it isn't a secret, and in this country it's an electoral advantage.)
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I am sorry I misreead you. My point is still the same though. Just because you are of one race doens't mean you follow their religion.
No I don't think America is racist I just think that it is a change people are not willing to make.
I'm not voting for him because og his views but that is just me.
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02-23-2007, 07:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Izdaari
I don't see why America wouldn't vote in a black president. They've voted in black senators and governors. Maybe you think America is a much more racist country than I do.
And btw, as I said above, my mother was a Jew by religion, not by ethnicity. So no, I'm not Jewish(race) or Jewish(religion). But as I understand, my mother being a Jewish convert still makes me eligible for Israeli citizenship... not that I have the slightest interest in claiming it. But no doubt some of these silly people would claim that makes a secret Zionist stealth candidate. (Even though if I were, I wouldn't be secret about it. I am in fact very pro-Israel, it isn't a secret, and in this country it's an electoral advantage.)
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Judaism, and Islam, view ethnicity in different ways. 1.2 billion Muslims view the FATHER'S religion as what determines a childs religion. The Mothers religion does NOT come into play.
With a Muslim name, and a Muslim Father, let's all guess what the religion would be. 
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02-23-2007, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Still Dizzy
Judaism, and Islam, view ethnicity in different ways. 1.2 billion Muslims view the FATHER'S religion as what determines a childs religion. The Mothers religion does NOT come into play.
With a Muslim name, and a Muslim Father, let's all guess what the religion would be. 
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But Dizzy, he is a member of the Baptist church.
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02-23-2007, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal
I am sorry I misreead you. My point is still the same though. Just because you are of one race doens't mean you follow their religion.
No I don't think America is racist I just think that it is a change people are not willing to make.
I'm not voting for him because og his views but that is just me.
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No problem. And I too am not voting for him (or any other liberal) because of his views.
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