Freedom you are very right about this, I have said for too long that McCain, being a war hero and all, cab't be trusted. I am studying the other Republicans running right now and even though I like Rudy, I am not sure he could get the nomination. Although I think Brownback, who is not real well know, is a possible as well as Romney. I guess we will have to see. Today I am going to look at Chuck Hagel to see where he stands.

__________________
An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.

Go Sooners

"I think that Roe's penumbras and emanations are an absolute affront to the constitution."

>>>Good one. Do you write for Dennis Miller?

It isn't new found.

This is what cracks me up about the perception of McCain.

The media was enamored of him in 2000 and somehow they overlooked the fact that he was a conservative.

He WAS a conservative, and he IS a conservative.

I don't know if you know this but Roe IS a very important issue to the voters of both parties.

The president appoints the Supremes who then decide on the issues, such as abortion.

IMO, This issue has become too important to the voters.

Fenian, I am a conservative and I approve of a womans right to choose. I guess that makes me less of a conservative?

__________________
An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.

Go Sooners

I am not passing judgments here.

I am against abortion. I think that Roe was decided wrongly.

I think the states should have the right to decide this issue, not the SCOTUS.

I wouldn't have a problem voting for a pro-choice candidate like Guiliani because this isn't the most important issue to me.

But, back to your point:

Why do you think that I would judge your conservatism?

You seem like an okay person to me.



\



What bothered me in particular about this little article is the way it was framed by the San Francisco Chronicle because overturning Roe v. Wade is NOT the same thing as outlawing abortion.

If Roe were overturned it would benefit the liberals more than the conservatives. IN fact I think that liberals/pro-choicers would be smart to allow the overturning and take away a HUGE issue to the conservative base of the Republican party.

Does he really mean it?

In the Roe v. Wade decision the Supreme Court ruled that nothing in either the Constitution or statutory law exists to say an unborn fetus is a legal person and thus eligible for the 14th Amendment’s right to life. And in the absence of such legal status for the unborn a pregnant woman has a right to have an abortion. The Court further declared that if a federal law existed to define the unborn as a legal person, then the Court would have reason to reconsider the Roe case because the unborn’s right to life may very well outweigh a woman’s right to have an abortion.

Thus Congress could very likely ban abortion by enacting a law that says an unborn fetus is a legal person for 14th Amendment purposes. Congress has considered such laws in the decades since the Roe decision came down, but to my knowledge none of these proposed laws were sponsored by John McCain (he did vote for an amendment to a bill that would have given legal personhood to the unborn). If he is serious about ending abortion, let him introduce a legal personhood bill into the Senate and then filibuster until the Senate votes the bill up or down.

And whatever good McCain would do by stopping abortion he would undo by supporting sodomite marriage: He supported an Arizona measure that would ban sodomite marriage, but he his opposed to similar action at the federal level, claiming that each state should set its own standard.

And let’s not forget how McCain is opposed to free speech via his McCain-Feingold campaign finance fiasco.

Abortion is not going away very soon...when things sit on the books too long they just don't get taken away very easily (strari decisis)...name one time this has happened?

McCain can take any stance he wants on abortion but in the end the rhetoric lines up with just gaining votes rather than making actual legislation.

Cat, your right about trying to get votes, personaly I will vote for the honset guy if there is one, that states his true feelings, regardless of how it effects him. McCain was just playing for votes here.

__________________
An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.

Go Sooners