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02-16-2007, 06:46 PM
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presidential nominations
In the 14 presidential elections beginning in 1952:
The Republicans have nominated
1 military officer (Dwight D. Eisenhower
2 state governors/former state governors (Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush)
6 incumbent presidents (Eisenhower 1956, Nixon 1972, Ford 1976, Reagan 1984, George H. W. Bush 1992, George W. Bush 2004)
2 U.S. Senators (Goldwater, Dole)
3 Vice-presidents/former Vice-Presidents (Nixon, Nixon, George H. W. Bush
The Democrats have nominated
5 state governors/former state governors (Stevenson 1952, Stevenson 1956, Carter 1976, Dukakis 1988, Clinton 1992)
3 incumbent presidents (Johnson 1964, Carter 1980, Clinton 1996)
2 Vice-presidents/former Vice-Presidents (Humphrey 1968, Mondale 1984, Gore 2000)
3 U.S. Senators (Kennedy, McGovern, Kerry)
So the Democrats have nominated U.S. Senators in only 3 of the last 14 presidential elections, while the Republicans have nominated 2.
So, the odds are not good for either Hilary or Obama. It would be foolish for anyone to base their political strategy for 2008 on either campaigning for or against Hilary or Obama or any of the other senators who are running as long there are any governors in the race.
I would not be one bit surprised to see the nomination of one (if not both) parties go to someone who enters the race just a month or so before the NH primary. As many candidates as there already are and as much money as they are raising, I would venture that the top tier candidates in both parties will tear themselves apart. For the first time in history the American electorate will be treated to a full year of active campaigning before the first vote is cast. Never before will active candidates have so much public exposure or so much opportunity to make mistakes.
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02-16-2007, 07:59 PM
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flaja, well for sure this is going to be an intresting election and oh by the way welcome to AWE.
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02-17-2007, 06:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flaja
In the 14 presidential elections beginning in 1952:
The Republicans have nominated
1 military officer (Dwight D. Eisenhower
2 state governors/former state governors (Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush)
6 incumbent presidents (Eisenhower 1956, Nixon 1972, Ford 1976, Reagan 1984, George H. W. Bush 1992, George W. Bush 2004)
2 U.S. Senators (Goldwater, Dole)
3 Vice-presidents/former Vice-Presidents (Nixon, Nixon, George H. W. Bush
The Democrats have nominated
5 state governors/former state governors (Stevenson 1952, Stevenson 1956, Carter 1976, Dukakis 1988, Clinton 1992)
3 incumbent presidents (Johnson 1964, Carter 1980, Clinton 1996)
2 Vice-presidents/former Vice-Presidents (Humphrey 1968, Mondale 1984, Gore 2000)
3 U.S. Senators (Kennedy, McGovern, Kerry)
So the Democrats have nominated U.S. Senators in only 3 of the last 14 presidential elections, while the Republicans have nominated 2.
So, the odds are not good for either Hilary or Obama. It would be foolish for anyone to base their political strategy for 2008 on either campaigning for or against Hilary or Obama or any of the other senators who are running as long there are any governors in the race.
I would not be one bit surprised to see the nomination of one (if not both) parties go to someone who enters the race just a month or so before the NH primary. As many candidates as there already are and as much money as they are raising, I would venture that the top tier candidates in both parties will tear themselves apart. For the first time in history the American electorate will be treated to a full year of active campaigning before the first vote is cast. Never before will active candidates have so much public exposure or so much opportunity to make mistakes.
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BINGO! Hildabeast has the largest 'would never vote for' rating in history. The RNC also has enough dirt on her to bury her. She is going nowhere.
Osama Bin Cokespoon? America will never go for a Liberal, Chicago, Muslim, Black, HUSSAIN OBAMA, with no experience, and a very, very, gray past.
Keep the Gores, and Kerry's out and they stand a chance. However the DNC has shown them, and reality, ain't even in the same zip code. They will do something stupid................I hope. 
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02-17-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Still Dizzy
Osama Bin Cokespoon? America will never go for a Liberal, Chicago, Muslim, Black, HUSSAIN OBAMA, with no experience, and a very, very, gray past.
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Obama bin Laden
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02-17-2007, 10:03 PM
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The Democrats could run Teddy.
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02-17-2007, 11:59 PM
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Why is it that the republicans feel the need to pick our candidates for we democrats. Do you have so little to say about your own candidates? It's so interesting that you are mute on them. Maybe they aren't worth talking about, or perhaps you just find ours more worthy of though....hmmm
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02-18-2007, 11:13 AM
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hmm, well I think we are looking at the prospective people that are available for the Democrats to select and the pickings don't look good. But to be fair the same can and is being said about the Republicans also.
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02-18-2007, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
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hmm, well I think we are looking at the prospective people that are available for the Democrats to select and the pickings don't look good. But to be fair the same can and is being said about the Republicans also.
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Well, I think you may be right. But maybe it is time the American voter spent more time scrutinizing the candidate of their own party, then tearing apart those that they have no intention of voting on.
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02-18-2007, 03:16 PM
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The Democrats could run Teddy.
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Run him maybe, but they'd be crazy to drive him.
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02-18-2007, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freedomlover
Why is it that the republicans feel the need to pick our candidates for we democrats. Do you have so little to say about your own candidates? It's so interesting that you are mute on them. Maybe they aren't worth talking about, or perhaps you just find ours more worthy of though....hmmm
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If this directed at me, I must point out that I am not a Republican and won’t be voting for whomever it is the Republicans nominate. However, what I say about senators not being nominated goes as much for the Republicans as it does for the Democrats.
BTW: the expression should be “for us Democrats”. The word for is a preposition and whatever follows it is an object of a preposition and must be in the objective case.
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