Originally Posted by Brian Hussein Crooks

It's good to be back. I just couldn't take the constant primary back-and-forth anymore and needed some time to chill. The discussion between my Black friends has turned to Barack Obama vis a vis Sarah Palin. If someone chose the first Black VP and the guy came out in a tall tee, baggy jeans, gold teeth, and a doo-rag, we would be super pissed. I have been wondering what women who had to deal with the catcalls and whistles in the workplace feel when they hear her referred to as sexy and hot. Talk about lowest common denominator.

Originally Posted by J04miller

LOL............that is a good way to compare it.

Watch my Muppets do gangsta rap.........you'll be entertained.

Brian, I think this race has showcased way more of the issues this country still has with women (first Hillary and now Palin) vs. blacks. What is your opinion?

Originally Posted by Brian Hussein Crooks

Well, I'm not surprised. I mean, McCain ran ads connecting Obama with nefarious Black figures and DARKENED ALL OF THEIR SKIN in the ad, but nobody cried foul. I'm happy Obama didn't but somebody should have. White America wants to believe that racism doesn't exist anymore, but when we're barely 40 years removed from a time when White police could legally beat me senseless for sitting at the wrong diner counter, we can't pretend it's gone. As I've said before, when a young child is beaten and abused for five years, they often require a lifetime of therapy to get over it, but when an entire race is beaten and abused for 20 generations, we're expected to get over it within two decades. We've been hearing "get over it" since the Reagan Administration.

I'm not bitter, though. I never figured they'd really talk about race in an adult way. We tried to for like two weeks a couple years ago after Imus but then Cho Sung Hui shot up Virginia Tech and that was the last we heard about race relations until South Carolina. But I honestly feel that getting a Black president will have a profound impact on race relations. Especially if he gets re-elected. Think about the future. You first really become aware of the government and what it means when you're in grade school, right? Let's say when you're 8 years old, you start to get a grip on stuff. If Obama is elected twice, those kids will be 16 years old when he gets out of office and probably won't really remember a time without a Black president. Think of what that will do to the way they perceive Blacks in their lives. Not to mention the positive impact I think it will undoubtedly have on Black America. It only took us about 20 years and some crack to lose our way. Hopefully 8 years and some hope will get us back on track.

Originally Posted by Brian Hussein Crooks

Am I crazy or does Sarah Palin get off with a whole hell of a lot of shit that no man, nor less-attractive woman would? Forget the inability to answer questions and the slim resume, but look at her behavior. I like lists.

1. She refers to her husband as "First Dude." Imagine calling Nancy Reagan "First Chick." That sort of thing may be fine locally, and I understand it offers them real-person bonafides, but that's supremely unprofessional, especially for a history-making candidacy. By default, the next First Gentleman would have to fight off the title.

2. The winking. Come on. Seriously. If Joe Biden was up there winking and blowing kisses and giving shout-outs to 3rd grade classes, we (both liberal and conservative) would run him out of town on a rail for being unprofessional. This is a serious job and we need a serious person to fill it. She should present herself to us in the same manner that she would present herself to the world and I don't want her winking and blowing kisses at the UN.

3. Refusing to answer questions. I don't just mean at the debate, but also in the media. Nobody in the history of presidential debates has ever looked into the camera and declared that they weren't going to answer the questions. Again, you can't do that on the world stage. If you want to talk around it, fine, but don't just blow off the questions. Furthermore, we would never accept a little-known man with a thin resume to outright duck interviews with the real media. Meet the Press is not "gotcha journalism." If elected, she would be the least-known candidate in American history.

4. This is the worst example yet. At a speech yesterday, someone in the audience shouted, "Sarah's hot!" Sarah halted her speech, winked in the direction of the shout and replied, "now, what's that got to do with anything?" in a flirtatious tone, to the raucous applause of the audience. This is in a long list of sexist references to the governor by her own partisans. There have been "Hoosiers for the Hottie" buttons, "Coldest state, hottest governor" bumper stickers, and articles referring to conservative columnists becoming erect watching her debate performance. No other woman would accept this. In any other workplace, the woman would be disgusted and rightfully so, but for Sarah Palin, it's just fine. In the 29 seconds in which she was recorded speaking with an Arab leader, the conversation centered on the man saying she was prettier in person, asking for a hug, telling her he could now see why America had fallen in love with her, and saying on his next visit he would give her a kiss.

Women have fought for decades to be able to go to work and not have men whistle at them and call them hot and sexy. Sarah Palin would set this movement back decades.

Originally Posted by Brian Hussein Crooks

Well, I'm not surprised. I mean, McCain ran ads connecting Obama with nefarious Black figures and DARKENED ALL OF THEIR SKIN in the ad, but nobody cried foul. I'm happy Obama didn't but somebody should have. White America wants to believe that racism doesn't exist anymore, but when we're barely 40 years removed from a time when White police could legally beat me senseless for sitting at the wrong diner counter, we can't pretend it's gone. As I've said before, when a young child is beaten and abused for five years, they often require a lifetime of therapy to get over it, but when an entire race is beaten and abused for 20 generations, we're expected to get over it within two decades. We've been hearing "get over it" since the Reagan Administration.

I'm not bitter, though. I never figured they'd really talk about race in an adult way. We tried to for like two weeks a couple years ago after Imus but then Cho Sung Hui shot up Virginia Tech and that was the last we heard about race relations until South Carolina. But I honestly feel that getting a Black president will have a profound impact on race relations. Especially if he gets re-elected. Think about the future. You first really become aware of the government and what it means when you're in grade school, right? Let's say when you're 8 years old, you start to get a grip on stuff. If Obama is elected twice, those kids will be 16 years old when he gets out of office and probably won't really remember a time without a Black president. Think of what that will do to the way they perceive Blacks in their lives. Not to mention the positive impact I think it will undoubtedly have on Black America. It only took us about 20 years and some crack to lose our way. Hopefully 8 years and some hope will get us back on track.

Originally Posted by Brian Hussein Crooks

Am I crazy or does Sarah Palin get off with a whole hell of a lot of shit that no man, nor less-attractive woman would? Forget the inability to answer questions and the slim resume, but look at her behavior. I like lists.

1. She refers to her husband as "First Dude." Imagine calling Nancy Reagan "First Chick." That sort of thing may be fine locally, and I understand it offers them real-person bonafides, but that's supremely unprofessional, especially for a history-making candidacy. By default, the next First Gentleman would have to fight off the title.

2. The winking. Come on. Seriously. If Joe Biden was up there winking and blowing kisses and giving shout-outs to 3rd grade classes, we (both liberal and conservative) would run him out of town on a rail for being unprofessional. This is a serious job and we need a serious person to fill it. She should present herself to us in the same manner that she would present herself to the world and I don't want her winking and blowing kisses at the UN.

3. Refusing to answer questions. I don't just mean at the debate, but also in the media. Nobody in the history of presidential debates has ever looked into the camera and declared that they weren't going to answer the questions. Again, you can't do that on the world stage. If you want to talk around it, fine, but don't just blow off the questions. Furthermore, we would never accept a little-known man with a thin resume to outright duck interviews with the real media. Meet the Press is not "gotcha journalism." If elected, she would be the least-known candidate in American history.

4. This is the worst example yet. At a speech yesterday, someone in the audience shouted, "Sarah's hot!" Sarah halted her speech, winked in the direction of the shout and replied, "now, what's that got to do with anything?" in a flirtatious tone, to the raucous applause of the audience. This is in a long list of sexist references to the governor by her own partisans. There have been "Hoosiers for the Hottie" buttons, "Coldest state, hottest governor" bumper stickers, and articles referring to conservative columnists becoming erect watching her debate performance. No other woman would accept this. In any other workplace, the woman would be disgusted and rightfully so, but for Sarah Palin, it's just fine. In the 29 seconds in which she was recorded speaking with an Arab leader, the conversation centered on the man saying she was prettier in person, asking for a hug, telling her he could now see why America had fallen in love with her, and saying on his next visit he would give her a kiss.

Women have fought for decades to be able to go to work and not have men whistle at them and call them hot and sexy. Sarah Palin would set this movement back decades.

Originally Posted by HonestAbe

1. The voters of Alaska coined that term

2. You watch too much SNL.

3. It's better than beating around the bush. All politicains are incapable of answering questions directly, she just happens to have the guts to not answer you in fewer words. Kudos for honesty.

4. So it's her fault that people think she's attractive? I probably would have done the same thing. I think you're jealous brian. Hopefully this will make you feel better:


BRIAN'S A HOTTIE!!

Originally Posted by Brian Hussein Crooks

Well, I'm not surprised. I mean, McCain ran ads connecting Obama with nefarious Black figures and DARKENED ALL OF THEIR SKIN in the ad, but nobody cried foul. I'm happy Obama didn't but somebody should have. White America wants to believe that racism doesn't exist anymore, but when we're barely 40 years removed from a time when White police could legally beat me senseless for sitting at the wrong diner counter, we can't pretend it's gone. As I've said before, when a young child is beaten and abused for five years, they often require a lifetime of therapy to get over it, but when an entire race is beaten and abused for 20 generations, we're expected to get over it within two decades. We've been hearing "get over it" since the Reagan Administration.

I'm not bitter, though. I never figured they'd really talk about race in an adult way. We tried to for like two weeks a couple years ago after Imus but then Cho Sung Hui shot up Virginia Tech and that was the last we heard about race relations until South Carolina. But I honestly feel that getting a Black president will have a profound impact on race relations. Especially if he gets re-elected. Think about the future. You first really become aware of the government and what it means when you're in grade school, right? Let's say when you're 8 years old, you start to get a grip on stuff. If Obama is elected twice, those kids will be 16 years old when he gets out of office and probably won't really remember a time without a Black president. Think of what that will do to the way they perceive Blacks in their lives. Not to mention the positive impact I think it will undoubtedly have on Black America. It only took us about 20 years and some crack to lose our way. Hopefully 8 years and some hope will get us back on track.

Originally Posted by j-man

Sarah Palin gets away with a whole lot of sh!t because she is an extreme, right-winger. And not too bright.