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10-07-2008, 11:34 PM
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Thanks for the link.
Found this there that isn't on topic but it made me laugh...

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10-07-2008, 11:40 PM
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Obama wins again...
Both CBS and CNN polls were practically identical to the first one, Obama won this one 10%-15%. This did not help McCain.
Personallyfor me, there was nothing new in this debate and there were just a bunch of things 'talked about' in terms of substance...it was just a display personalities which Obama wins on that end.
The 'This one' comment and McCain points his thumb over at Obama was the way people are seeing the Senator from Arizona more and more...your angry old uncle who won't buy a new pair of shoes even though the onld stink up the room.
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Whoda thunk. And what's wrong with an angry old white guy? I think this country could use a torqued off former POW to set these goons in the middle east straight. We need to get off this politically correct crap. It is the main cause of the sissification of this country, and exactly why these people think they can get away with stuff. If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck, period.
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10-07-2008, 11:41 PM
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Brokaw did the American people a disservice in his selection the millions of questions he could have used. The questions regarding the economy were boilerplate, and did not have a time stamp. Nothing about the dropping Dow, the over 2 billion drop (on paper) assets that represent our 401Ks. The question about SS, and Medicare reform was good but both slipped away from the hook. And retirement income could have been better handled with the recent events. Besides McCain missed a hanging curveball. SS reform was attempted by the Bush Administration, and the libs blocked it early 2001.
There had to have been a question on who caused the troubles at Fannie and Freddie. And it's a shame this wasn't used. Both missed the AIG turds going to the spa. McCain should have said, that's what I mean about oversight, and the Dems just don't learn. They gave them the money with no strings attached.
The American people once again lost tonight. We're on a losing streak that makes the Orioles look like pennant contenders. Brokaw and the questions he chose, gave us one of those "Pissing on our shoes, and telling us it is rain."
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10-07-2008, 11:42 PM
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Brokaw did the American people a disservice in his selection the millions of questions he could have used. The questions regarding the economy were boilerplate, and did not have a time stamp. Nothing about the dropping Dow, the over 2 billion drop (on paper) assets that represent our 401Ks. The question about SS, and Medicare reform was good but both slipped away from the hook. And retirement income could have been better handled with the recent events. Besides McCain missed a hanging curveball. SS reform was attempted by the Bush Administration, and the libs blocked it early 2001.
There had to have been a question on who caused the troubles at Fannie and Freddie. And it's a shame this wasn't used. Both missed the AIG turds going to the spa. McCain should have said, that's what I mean about oversight, and the Dems just don't learn. They gave them the money with no strings attached.
The American people once again lost tonight. We're on a losing streak that makes the Orioles look like pennant contenders. Brokaw and the questions he chose, gave us one of those "Pissing on our shoes, and telling us it is rain."
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actually obama did mention the aig guys going to the spa you missed it i believe it was in the first half hour
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10-07-2008, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LCOF
Brokaw did the American people a disservice in his selection the millions of questions he could have used. The questions regarding the economy were boilerplate, and did not have a time stamp. Nothing about the dropping Dow, the over 2 billion drop (on paper) assets that represent our 401Ks. The question about SS, and Medicare reform was good but both slipped away from the hook. And retirement income could have been better handled with the recent events. Besides McCain missed a hanging curveball. SS reform was attempted by the Bush Administration, and the libs blocked it early 2001.
There had to have been a question on who caused the troubles at Fannie and Freddie. And it's a shame this wasn't used. Both missed the AIG turds going to the spa. McCain should have said, that's what I mean about oversight, and the Dems just don't learn. They gave them the money with no strings attached.
The American people once again lost tonight. We're on a losing streak that makes the Orioles look like pennant contenders. Brokaw and the questions he chose, gave us one of those "Pissing on our shoes, and telling us it is rain."
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What else could we have expected from Brokejaw, he's a stooge for the left. The PBS lady did better.
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10-07-2008, 11:47 PM
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The second presidential debate just more lies and half truths.......... again.
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WASHINGTON – Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain stretched facts, sometimes past the breaking point, as they addressed the financial crisis and misrepresented each other's position on health care during their second presidential debate.
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Obama, McCain stretch facts in debate - Yahoo! News
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10-08-2008, 12:00 AM
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I'm betting McCain didn't gain any ground from the debate other than perhaps with his base...which he already has.
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Hmmm...I'm starting to hear things that make me wonder if I might have misspoke with this.
He may be losing ground there too.
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10-08-2008, 12:19 AM
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The Weekly Standard
Wednesday, October 08, 2008
Debate Two Goes to Obama
John McCain had a very strong debate tonight. It’s too bad for him that it came on a night when Barack Obama was nearly flawless.
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10-08-2008, 12:21 AM
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But viewers who woke up for the final thirty minutes saw some sharp differences and sharp exchanges on foreign policy. The most memorable came after McCain noted that his hero, Teddy Roosevelt, advised that Americans “talk softly and carry a big stick.” He said of Obama: “Senator Obama likes to talk loudly” and criticized Obama’s views on Pakistan.
But in his best answer of the night, Obama calmly explained his position on Pakistan – which strikes me as a very reasonable one – and turned the charge back against McCain.
I want to be very clear about what I said. Nobody called for the invasion of Pakistan. The audience here today heard me say, which is that if Pakistan is unable or unwilling to hunt down bin Laden and take him out then we should. Now that, I think, has to be our policy because they are threatening to kill more Americans.
Now Senator McCain suggests that you know I’m green behind the ears and that I’m just spouting off and that he’s somber and responsible. Senator McCain – this is the guy who sang Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran. Who called for the annihilation of North Korea. That I don’t think is an example of speaking softly. This is the person who after we hadn’t even finished Afghanistan where he said – next up, Baghdad. So I agree that we have to speak responsibly.
McCain began his next response by explaining and defending his joke on Iran. Anytime McCain spends time on the defensive about foreign policy, he is losing.
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10-08-2008, 12:28 AM
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Obama’s test in the first debate was to present himself as a plausible president, as a guy who didn’t seem out of place on stage at a presidential debate and wouldn’t seem out of place delivering a State of the Union address. Much as I’d disagree with the policies in such a speech, it was clear that he passed that test. Tonight, his job was to persuade voters – particularly independents – not only that he could be president but that he should be president. I suspect polling in the next couple of days will provide evidence that he passed that test, too.
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