The Defining Moment......

orwell1984 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-04-2008, 12:06 AM

The Vice Presidential debate has now come and gone. The newscasters, journalists, and pundits will take over and debate this historic television moment for a long time. They will each declare winners and losers but, in fact, there were no losers and only one winner: the American people.

Governor Palin acquitted herself well when compared to her interviews with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric. There were some shaky moments but she seemed more comfortable and more relaxed than she did in either of the other venues. Unfortunately, her responses were still robotic and memorized. There was little substance and few facts to support her talking points and, when she was unable to answer a question, she simply changed the topic to energy. Because of the format limitations, she often went unchallenged performing that slight of hand. The bar was set low and, in that sense, she cleared the hurdle. But lowering the bar to accommodate the competitor should be unacceptable to all Americans. By the end of the debate, she seemed no more capable of assuming the presidency than she did at the beginning. Smoke and mirrors can never reflect a person's true nature. They only obscure the truth.

Senator Biden's presentation was delivered with facts, style, and clarity. It was a presentation of substance and he truly served Barack Obama and the American people well. He cleared the bar easily and cleanly as it should be when competing for the second highest position in the land. By the end of the debate, it was clear that he would have no trouble stepping into the President's shoes should that ever be required.

And yet, I found the most defining moment of the night was when Senator Biden, speaking of losing his wife and daughter in a car accident and almost losing a son, had to fight back tears that were wrenched from deep inside. That was the one moment in this debate that was unscripted. It was a moment that truly reflected the stature and sincerity of a politician who has fought for the average person for his entire career. He overcame adversity of overwhelming proportions at a time when he had just won his Senate seat. Heroism comes in all forms.

Sarah Palin was unable to make any kind of human response to Joe Biden's grief. Without blinking an eye and looking straight ahead, she just continued to recite the memorized talking points of a political candidate. Despite all her claims of connecting with the average American, it was Joe Biden who made that connection. It was Joe Biden in that brief period who connected with the person on Main Street USA who has experienced similar tragedy in their lives.

Joe Biden, in the blink of an eye, showed us the humanity that has been sorely missing from this campaign until now. He walked the walk in that one defining moment.

LCOF · #2 (**permalink**) 10-04-2008, 12:56 AM

To his credit at least he controlled himself from trotting out the lie that comes with that tragedy. That being, the accident resulted from a drunk driver. A story he has mentioned twice in this campaign. But you're wrong in proffering Plugs was laying out facts. Facts are strangers to Plugs. Why rely on facts when lies work best to promote an agenda.

But since you mentioned family, the media seems fixated on attacking Sarah and or her children. Click on this link from some slut named Suzy Shuster;

Suzy Shuster: Sarah's Son 'Her Favorite Prop of This Campaign Season' | NewsBusters.org

So to this bitch Trig is a prop. And the same twit would have said had Trig not been on the stage post debate, why is Sarah hiding Trig. So she can't win. Trig is a prop, while a child in the Kennedy family with the same or similar condition was hid. Of course no one asks where the angry Michelle Obama breaths her wrath these days.

Defining moment, was within the 1 1/2 hr of the debate anytime Sarah spoke. Some more dominant than others, but most of which showed Katie and Charlie just for who they are. gutless pukes who need the skill knife of the cutting room to edit the best of the interview, and highlight the worst.

You libs can keep spinning it all you care to but Palin out performed Plugs.

Finally to your point about Palin going on with her comments, and not acknowledging Plugs emotional moment. What did you want her to do? Pull a Barry I have a bracelet too? Was she to mention Slut Shuster's reference of the prop named Trig?

Frankly, I don't recall reading in 1929 when FDR watched the market crash on tv, and then responded immediately that he cried, nor anytime after this either. Just my opinion, but it shows weakness for leaders to show this kind of emotion. Now all you Bush bashers come back and say he cries, and I would simply ask you to defend why youthink this is leadership. If Plugs needs to be emotional I'm sure he is the one VEEP candidate welcome on Oprah. A good place for him.

hackteck · #3 (**permalink**) 10-04-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LCOF

To his credit at least he controlled himself from trotting out the lie that comes with that tragedy. That being, the accident resulted from a drunk driver. A story he has mentioned twice in this campaign. But you're wrong in proffering Plugs was laying out facts. Facts are strangers to Plugs. Why rely on facts when lies work best to promote an agenda.

But since you mentioned family, the media seems fixated on attacking Sarah and or her children. Click on this link from some slut named Suzy Shuster;

Suzy Shuster: Sarah's Son 'Her Favorite Prop of This Campaign Season' | NewsBusters.org

So to this bitch Trig is a prop. And the same twit would have said had Trig not been on the stage post debate, why is Sarah hiding Trig. So she can't win. Trig is a prop, while a child in the Kennedy family with the same or similar condition was hid. Of course no one asks where the angry Michelle Obama breaths her wrath these days.

Defining moment, was within the 1 1/2 hr of the debate anytime Sarah spoke. Some more dominant than others, but most of which showed Katie and Charlie just for who they are. gutless pukes who need the skill knife of the cutting room to edit the best of the interview, and highlight the worst.

You libs can keep spinning it all you care to but Palin out performed Plugs.

Finally to your point about Palin going on with her comments, and not acknowledging Plugs emotional moment. What did you want her to do? Pull a Barry I have a bracelet too? Was she to mention Slut Shuster's reference of the prop named Trig?

Frankly, I don't recall reading in 1929 when FDR watched the market crash on tv, and then responded immediately that he cried, nor anytime after this either. Just my opinion, but it shows weakness for leaders to show this kind of emotion. Now all you Bush bashers come back and say he cries, and I would simply ask you to defend why youthink this is leadership. If Plugs needs to be emotional I'm sure he is the one VEEP candidate welcome on Oprah. A good place for him.

all your posts are like from the same script its funny i can pick any of your posts and i know what they will contain you need new material

Puckhead · #4 (**permalink**) 10-04-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by orwell1984

The Vice Presidential debate has now come and gone. The newscasters, journalists, and pundits will take over and debate this historic television moment for a long time. They will each declare winners and losers but, in fact, there were no losers and only one winner: the American people.

Governor Palin acquitted herself well when compared to her interviews with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric. There were some shaky moments but she seemed more comfortable and more relaxed than she did in either of the other venues. Unfortunately, her responses were still robotic and memorized. There was little substance and few facts to support her talking points and, when she was unable to answer a question, she simply changed the topic to energy. Because of the format limitations, she often went unchallenged performing that slight of hand. The bar was set low and, in that sense, she cleared the hurdle. But lowering the bar to accommodate the competitor should be unacceptable to all Americans. By the end of the debate, she seemed no more capable of assuming the presidency than she did at the beginning. Smoke and mirrors can never reflect a person's true nature. They only obscure the truth.

Senator Biden's presentation was delivered with facts, style, and clarity. It was a presentation of substance and he truly served Barack Obama and the American people well. He cleared the bar easily and cleanly as it should be when competing for the second highest position in the land. By the end of the debate, it was clear that he would have no trouble stepping into the President's shoes should that ever be required.

And yet, I found the most defining moment of the night was when Senator Biden, speaking of losing his wife and daughter in a car accident and almost losing a son, had to fight back tears that were wrenched from deep inside. That was the one moment in this debate that was unscripted. It was a moment that truly reflected the stature and sincerity of a politician who has fought for the average person for his entire career. He overcame adversity of overwhelming proportions at a time when he had just won his Senate seat. Heroism comes in all forms.

Sarah Palin was unable to make any kind of human response to Joe Biden's grief. Without blinking an eye and looking straight ahead, she just continued to recite the memorized talking points of a political candidate. Despite all her claims of connecting with the average American, it was Joe Biden who made that connection. It was Joe Biden in that brief period who connected with the person on Main Street USA who has experienced similar tragedy in their lives.

Joe Biden, in the blink of an eye, showed us the humanity that has been sorely missing from this campaign until now. He walked the walk in that one defining moment.

EXCELLENT POST AND DEAD ON TRUTHFUL

areyoushittin'me? · #5 (**permalink**) 10-04-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by orwell1984

Sarah Palin was unable to make any kind of human response to Joe Biden's grief. Without blinking an eye and looking straight ahead, she just continued to recite the memorized talking points of a political candidate. Despite all her claims of connecting with the average American, it was Joe Biden who made that connection. It was Joe Biden in that brief period who connected with the person on Main Street USA who has experienced similar tragedy in their lives.

Joe Biden, in the blink of an eye, showed us the humanity that has been sorely missing from this campaign until now. He walked the walk in that one defining moment.

Puckhead · #6 (**permalink**) 10-04-2008, 11:33 AM

Another thing.....Want to know another reason why she's a dumb ass. She sets this whole thing up at the beginning......."Can I call you Joe?" , just so she can be all proud of herself to say her line...."Say it ain't so Joe".......WOW, that was great Sarah. Must have stayed up all night by the creek thinking up that one.

Don't worry about a thing there sweetie. Gosh darn it, I betcha you'll be back in Alaska in no time , blastin' away wolves from a helicopter. Then you won't have to worry about anymore tough and "gotcha" questions like ....What do you read?