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09-10-2008, 06:11 PM
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New battleground polls
Michigan: Obama 49, McCain 45
Missouri: McCain 50, Obama 45
New Hampshire: Obama 51, McCain 45
Virginia: McCain 50, Obama 46
Dates conducted: September 7-9.
I guess there's some good news for both sides here. Each candidate is leading in states you would think they must have. Still, all the states are relatively close.
The Page - by Mark Halperin - TIME
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09-10-2008, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Upton
Michigan: Obama 49, McCain 45
Missouri: McCain 50, Obama 45
New Hampshire: Obama 51, McCain 45
Virginia: McCain 50, Obama 46
Dates conducted: September 7-9.
I guess there's some good news for both sides here. Each candidate is leading in states you would think they must have. Still, all the states are relatively close.
The Page - by Mark Halperin - TIME
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north dakota voted overwhelmingly for duncan hunter, yet they say its a barak state. shows how great yer polls are.
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09-10-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jebe
north dakota voted overwhelmingly for duncan hunter, yet they say its a barak state. shows how great yer polls are.
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N. Dakota was a caucus and I don't even see Duncan Hunter listed in the top four. Perhaps your mind is playing tricks on you.
North Dakota Republican caucuses, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
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In these polls what stands out to me is VA. It is the must win state for McCain to hold from the past, and MI is the must win for Obama.
There is no bad news for McCain in either snapshot. Michigan could flip for 2 main factors. This state has had a 1 state recession, and has gone blue in 4 or 5 cycles. Add to this, Detroit and their former scumbag Mayor who is now moved to another address in "public housing" will hurt the strange inner city vote. I'm sure they will have the ACORN but it's effects will not be as numerous as had they not had the scandal.
So McCain if McCain can pick up from the rest of MI 2 points or so it could shift to red.
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09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LCOF
In these polls what stands out to me is VA. It is the must win state for McCain to hold from the past, and MI is the must win for Obama.
There is no bad news for McCain in either snapshot. Michigan could flip for 2 main factors. This state has had a 1 state recession, and has gone blue in 4 or 5 cycles. Add to this, Detroit and their former scumbag Mayor who is now moved to another address in "public housing" will hurt the strange inner city vote. I'm sure they will have the ACORN but it's effects will not be as numerous as had they not had the scandal.
So McCain if McCain can pick up from the rest of MI 2 points or so it could shift to red.
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It could but odds are it won't..Kerry won in Mi. by 3%, Gore by 5% so a 4% lead for Obama is par for the course. If I was a McCain supporter, I'd be concerned about Fla., a new Rasmussen Poll has the state tied at 48%. Obama can afford to lose there, McCain can't.
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09-10-2008, 06:40 PM
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McCain won't lose Florida.
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09-10-2008, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Upton
It could but odds are it won't..Kerry won in Mi. by 3%, Gore by 5% so a 4% lead for Obama is par for the course. If I was a McCain supporter, I'd be concerned about Fla., a new Rasmussen Poll has the state tied at 48%. Obama can afford to lose there, McCain can't.
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Hey the national polls are fun but the State by State polls is where the rubber meet the road. And FL is always a concern especially since 2000. From what I have found, VA, FL, OH are the states to watch for the GOP. But if MI and PA come into play, as they are. Wisconsin is another in play state too.
The thing going for the GOP is they appear to be more energized than the DNC, at present. And from a timing sense the GOP has more time to make advances, that if the Dems get fired up then it may be too much too little too late.
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09-10-2008, 07:39 PM
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