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Old 09-10-2008, 02:38 AM
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I don't think the Onion covered it, maybe that is why you didn't hear.
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:07 AM
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Why shouldn't Iowans get money from America's resources...is she wanting to represent American's instead of just Alaskan's?
Then your argument is that Iowans have been cheated for over thirty years, eh? Because all Palin did was raise the money from the Permanent Dividend Fund, which still didn't make up for the cuts in the fund for over half a decade. Alaska made the deal with the oil companies, not Iowans.

Not only does it help pay for the high cost of living in Alaska, it also encourages people to live in Alaska.

Although that being said, I would need a hell of a lot more money than $1200 dollars to live in Iowa, so maybe they should come up with something like that. Except for the fact that the wheat growers and the pig farmers aren't leasing state land, like the oil companies are doing in Alaska. Little bit of a difference.



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The point is that people talk about her experience and what she did for the people of Alaska...seems to me it is only relevant if she is prepared to do the same for a bigger constituancy.
She had nothing to do with the establishment of the Dividend Fund. Nothing. What she did do was raise it up, for one year, and as stated, it fell far short of making up for the declining payments in years when oil companies were making larger profits than they ever had before (while leasing state lands).


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Furthermore...if she got that income by taxing oil companies...aren't we the consumer ultimately subsidising the Alaskan's?
States have their own tax laws. They also don't pay state income taxes, neither do people from Texas, Florida, Washington, Nevada, and a couple of others.

Many other states also have a graduated, or progressive, tax for corporations . . . . and those other states don't own the land that the corporations are on, like the state of Alaska does. When Iowa taxes large corporations located in Iowa they are doing the same thing. It is just that Iowa doesn't produce anything that comes close to the profits generated by oil.
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:43 AM
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Then your argument is that Iowans have been cheated for over thirty years, eh? Because all Palin did was raise the money from the Permanent Dividend Fund, which still didn't make up for the cuts in the fund for over half a decade. Alaska made the deal with the oil companies, not Iowans.

Not only does it help pay for the high cost of living in Alaska, it also encourages people to live in Alaska.

Although that being said, I would need a hell of a lot more money than $1200 dollars to live in Iowa, so maybe they should come up with something like that. Except for the fact that the wheat growers and the pig farmers aren't leasing state land, like the oil companies are doing in Alaska. Little bit of a difference.
Nah, I don't give a damn about the Iowans...that was then...this is now.





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She had nothing to do with the establishment of the Dividend Fund. Nothing. What she did do was raise it up, for one year, and as stated, it fell far short of making up for the declining payments in years when oil companies were making larger profits than they ever had before (while leasing state lands).
Yep, but as you mentioned, she raised the payment amounts...that's gotta go to her popularity...and past experience.




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States have their own tax laws. They also don't pay state income taxes, neither do people from Texas, Florida, Washington, Nevada, and a couple of others.

Many other states also have a graduated, or progressive, tax for corporations . . . . and those other states don't own the land that the corporations are on, like the state of Alaska does. When Iowa taxes large corporations located in Iowa they are doing the same thing. It is just that Iowa doesn't produce anything that comes close to the profits generated by oil.
Yes they do...no income tax...no sales tax...ain't it grand?

Tax the oil companies and the consumer pays.

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Old 09-10-2008, 04:17 AM
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Nah, I don't give a damn about the Iowans...that was then...this is now.





Yep, but as you mentioned, she raised the payment amounts...that's gotta go to her popularity...and past experience.




Yes they do...no income tax...no sales tax...ain't it grand?

Tax the oil companies and the consumer pays.

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I bet 75% of the critics of this move on here didn't have the first clue that this is something that has been going on for over three decades. Furthermore, I doubt 95% of them realize that the one time increased amounts don't come close to making up for six years of declining rebates.

Thing is, even when the dividend funds were rising during the 80's we didn't see a significant, or correlating, increase in the price of gas. Can you explain that one?

As far as it being grand, Alaska has to have some sort of incentives to keep people there. The packages they offer some various occupations to come to Alaska is amazing.
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Yes, Palin Did Stop That Bridge
By JIM DEMINT
September 10, 2008; Page A15

"But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up." -- Barack Obama, Sept. 6, 2008

In politics, words are cheap. What really counts are actions. Democrats and Republicans have talked about fiscal responsibility for years. In reality, both parties have a shameful record of wasting hundreds of billions of tax dollars on pork-barrel projects.

My Senate colleague Barack Obama is now attacking Gov. Sarah Palin over earmarks. Having worked with both John McCain and Mr. Obama on earmarks, and as a recovering earmarker myself, I can tell you that Mrs. Palin's leadership and record of reform stands well above that of Mr. Obama.

Let's compare.

Mrs. Palin used her veto pen to slash more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving state residents $268 million. This included vetoing a $30,000 van for Campfire USA and $200,000 for a tennis court irrigation system. She succinctly justified these cuts by saying they were "not a state responsibility."

Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana.

Mrs. Palin cut Alaska's federal earmark requests in half last year, one of the strongest moves against earmarks by any governor. It took real leadership to buck Alaska's decades-long earmark addiction.

Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005. His running mate, Joe Biden, is still indulging in earmarks, securing over $90 million worth this year.

Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.

When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys' club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.

Mrs. Palin has proven courageous by taking on big spenders in her own party. In March of this year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that, "Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin's antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state."

Mr. Obama had a chance to take on his party when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a sham ethics bill, which was widely criticized by watchdog groups such as Citizens Against Government Waste for shielding earmarks from pubic scrutiny. But instead of standing with taxpayers, Mr. Obama voted for the bill. Today, he claims he helped write the bill that failed to clean up Washington.

Mr. Obama has shown little restraint on earmarks until this year, when he decided to co-sponsor an earmark moratorium authored by Mr. McCain and myself. Mr. Obama is vulnerable on this issue, and he knows it. That is why he is lashing out at Mrs. Palin and trying to hide his own record.

Mrs. Palin is one of the strongest antiearmark governors in America. If more governors around the country would do what she has done, we would be much closer to fixing our nation's fiscal problems than we are.

Mrs. Palin's record here is solid and inspiring. She will help Mr. McCain shut down the congressional favor factory, and she has a record to prove it. Actions mean something. You can't just make stuff up.

Mr. DeMint, a Republican, is a U.S. senator from South Carolina.
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