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06-30-2008, 01:54 AM
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STATE MEETING: Republicans hold renegade convention
STATE MEETING: Republicans hold renegade convention
RENO -- A group of disaffected Republicans held a renegade state convention Saturday and exposed divisions that threaten to dog the party up to the national party convention and beyond.
Organizers maintained the gathering was a lawful reconvening of the GOP's recessed April 26 state convention in Reno. The party's executive committee has set a July 26 date to resume the state convention.
The April convention was abruptly shut down before final votes on what was shaping up as a national convention delegation with more backers for Ron Paul than presumptive GOP presidential nominee John McCain.
Paul supporters and others voted Saturday to reconvene the state convention after determining the 327 delegates in attendance constituted a quorum.
STATE MEETING: Republicans hold renegade convention
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06-30-2008, 10:51 AM
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this sounds like a pitty party. while i dont see ALL of Ron Pauls ideas as whackjobs, he clearly has not a clue when it comes to foreing policy. and ANY president direly needs to have that firm grasp, or they are bound to fail. he advocated he was FOR an immediate troop withdrawal from iraq. hell, how many casualties would we have while that was taking place? 4 thousand and what? so with just his one knee jerk announcement that he was for the surrender of any initiative to fight foreing terrorism, he has shown that ALL his ideas just might be AS whacko as this one is. this quorum thing sounds quite lame. 327 people representing how many others? signatures please.
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06-30-2008, 11:17 AM
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Jebe, apparently you are still stuck in park... With the rise of al Qaeda membership, it's re-established communications network, it's increased efficiency and proficiency in attacking, the rise of the Taliban.... you really think that diverting everything into Iraq was the right course.
Paul's position is that the army should have retrained as surgical strike units with massive air cover, as opposed to invading an already contained and heavily surveiled enemy. I doubt that RP would just withdraw without putting a more targeted and less cost intensive plan into action. The one the should have been finished first.
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06-30-2008, 11:50 AM
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Back Atcha. i have never seen his thoughts about revamping the militaty. whered you find this at? for limited strikes this sounds good. im still on the fence as to Ron wanting to have done this. AQ has to be eliminated, period. the carrot was a bad idea. the stick is the only option now. i was not behind bush for going into iraq either. but the cards have fallen. it appears as our stratagy has been to allow them to infiltrate so we can kill them. okay, im all for that. just as long as their freinds there get hammered too. Ron Paul did say, " we need to leave iraq tommorrow ". that message did not sound like an intelligent person talking. we are now making good time with a poor plan. an exit now would be a slap in the faces of those of our military. another vietnam? no. there are no masses of military enemies sitting in the next valley. if iran were to try that, i would hope we would preemptive strike them while they are leaving their staging areas. btw, i am for his idea to reduce the fed governemnt by as much as possible. i have YET to figger out how to accomplish that goal while NOT upsetting the apple cart.
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06-30-2008, 11:57 AM
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Well, that's just it, isn't it. You can't be worried about upsetting the apple cart. Especially if the apple cart is going to get upset on it's own broken wheels. Why continue this equally painful reactionary policy, when we could proactive and fix the wheels...
Carrying a metaphor too far?
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06-30-2008, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Atcha
Well, that's just it, isn't it. You can't be worried about upsetting the apple cart. Especially if the apple cart is going to get upset on it's own broken wheels. Why continue this equally painful reactionary policy, when we could proactive and fix the wheels...
Carrying a metaphor too far?
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its been broke since it was made Back. it needs repaired not tossed off the cliff. if it is to be tossed off the cliff, then the efforts of those to keep it up will be in vain. and some of those people ARE good. IF we are to toss it off the cliff, then it WILL get bloody, quickly.
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06-30-2008, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jebe
its been broke since it was made Back. it needs repaired not tossed off the cliff. if it is to be tossed off the cliff, then the efforts of those to keep it up will be in vain. and some of those people ARE good. IF we are to toss it off the cliff, then it WILL get bloody, quickly.
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LOL... and the metaphor continues...
I agree, tossing things over cliffs is a bad idea. And ya, it wasn't the perfect system when it was assembled, and the framers knew that. But it was a hell of a lot better than anything before it, and IMHO, better than we have now, with exceptions to things like the 14th amendment. But then, it doesn't really matter if everyone enjoys equal rights if the gov't is going to infringe on them anyway.
Oh ahhh.. like an apple cart ?!!?!???
Last edited by Back Atcha; 06-30-2008 at 12:38 PM.
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