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Old 06-26-2008, 03:23 PM
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Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem, with that in mind I will highlight the relevant portions of Obama's statement:
I get it. Obama wants to strip guns from law abiding citizens to prevent gang bangers from killing children. I get, you get, the whole world gets it. Obama is all for gun control and letting the gang bangers run through the street using their fingers as guns and saying bang. Or more likely being the criminals that they are they will get a gun illegally and drive down the road and let the gun go bang instead.
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Old 06-26-2008, 03:24 PM
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Our whole system of goverment is about or was designed with checks and balances. In a nation where the govt. is representative of the people and is elected to serve the people the 2nd amendmant serves as a check for the people. It also ensures ones right to protect himself and his family it also ensures him a way in wich to feed his family. For in the time in wich it was written many many Americans hunted in order to feed their family and themselves.

I am shocked and pleased with the SC decision they have for once took something for what it actualy is. Although it is an individual right it says nothing about regulating. I do not see myself such inteligant men as the founding fathers being so ignorant as to not recognize that a certain amount of regulation being necesary. For without any regulation a criminal would have the same right. I believe 100% in the 2nd amendmant but it comes with responsability and that is the safety of others innocent citazens.

The fact that 4 justices voted the other way does not show sound constitutional judgement rather personal political and beliefs and they should be removed from the bench.

I am dissapointed about the LA decision on the death penalty but as TAN pointed out to me the way in wich the law was made makes it possible for lesser crime of this fashion facing the death penalty. If LA was to go back and make a better law and divide it up in different degrees of the offens and clearer more concise criteria these rapist would have to meet to be eligable for the death penalty. Well then the supreme court would have no choice but to vote it constitutional.
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Old 06-26-2008, 03:32 PM
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Obamas problem is no different than any of the other idiots that have tried to stop crime with guns. Regulation only keeps oh say about 1/2% of guns out of criminals hands. That being said it is not more laws regulating guns we need those laws just need to be brought together in a more comprehensive air tight system. Then they need to come up with a good plan to secure the borders, all the borders. Air land and sea so that no drugs make it into this country. No illegals are here that raise the level of violence with gangs and guns. The violence with guns directly coalates with drugs and money made off of those drugs. You kill the supply and you start dealing with the problem.
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I like how he now says he believes it is an individuals right now that the Supreme Court has ruled it is an individual right. They have interviews with him contradicting that statement many times. Ya he is a typical politician only thing different is he is black and not proud of his white side. hhhahahah
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I like how he now says he believes it is an individuals right now that the Supreme Court has ruled it is an individual right. They have interviews with him contradicting that statement many times. Ya he is a typical politician only thing different is he is black and not proud of his white side. hhhahahah People gravitate around this shit head??????????
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I like how he now says he believes it is an individuals right now that the Supreme Court has ruled it is an individual right. They have interviews with him contradicting that statement many times.
Then you should have no problem providing the quotes...everything I've read indicates that he supports the 2nd amendment on a Federal level but also supports various localities to make exception due to circumstances.
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I like how he now says he believes it is an individuals right now that the Supreme Court has ruled it is an individual right. They have interviews with him contradicting that statement many times. Ya he is a typical politician only thing different is he is black and not proud of his white side. hhhahahah People gravitate around this shit head??????????
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are black as well, so even his skin color is not a change.
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7 of the current SC Justices were appointed by Republicans. So, obviously Republican presidents had a hand in both the child rape decision and added to the minority (4) in the DC gun ban decision.

Your thread titles are both misleading and make assumptions that often turn out not to be true.
There you go again Uption....confusing the talk radio parrrot simpletons with the facts..shame on you !

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As a state legislator in Illinois, Obama supported banning the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic firearms, increasing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms and requiring manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.[140] He supported a "ban" on the sale and possession of handguns on a political questionnaire lacking specific guidelines.[141][142] In 1999, he urged prohibiting the operation of any gun store within five miles of a school or park, which according to pro-gun advocates would eliminate gun stores from most of the inhabited portion of the United States.[143] He sponsored a bill in 2000 limiting handgun purchases to one per month.

As state senator, he voted against a 2004 measure that allowed self-defense as an affirmative defense to those charged with violating local laws making it otherwise unlawful for such persons to possess firearms.[144] He also voted against allowing persons who had obtained domestic violence protective orders to carry handguns for their protection.[143]

From 1994 through 2002, Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation, which provides funds for gun control organizations in the United States.[145][146]

While in the US Senate, Obama has supported several gun control measures, including restricting the purchase of firearms at gun shows and the reauthorization of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.[147] Obama voted against legislation protecting firearm manufacturers from liability.[148] Obama did vote in favor of the 2006 Vitter Amendment to prohibit the confiscation of lawful firearms during an emergency or major disaster, which passed 84-16.[149]

During a February 15, 2008 press conference, Obama stated, "I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation."[150] He voiced support for the District of Columbia's ban on handguns, for which arguments pro and con were heard by the Supreme Court in March 2008 in the case D.C. v. Heller.[150] Obama has also stated his opposition to allowing citizens to carry concealed guns[151] and supports a national law outlawing the practice.[152][153]

Obama is rated F by the National Rifle Association.[154] The NRA describes the recipient of its F grade as a "true enemy of gun owners’ rights."[155] He is also rated F by Gun Owners of America[156] who stated that Obama will "Get the Dems 'Barack' into the Business of Gun Control".[157]

Obama has a 100% voting record supporting the positions of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in the U.S. Congress, though only one bill taken up by Congress during Obama's Senate tenure was considered by the Brady Campaign in calculating its rating.[158]

Definately "pro gun". The preceeding information came from widpedia.
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