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05-07-2008, 05:35 PM
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The name Obama was not included in the post and a direct reference to another post was not made. Rather than make a false assumption, I asked. Back on that topic: how is he racist?
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Read his books, perhaps that will clear it up for you....
Any white person that attended a church for twenty years, all the while promoting "White Pride" then he would also be labeled a racist - and rightly so.... We have people like that, ya know, they are called the KKK.
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05-07-2008, 05:38 PM
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Read his books, perhaps that will clear it up for you....
Any white person that attended a church for twenty years, all the while promoting "White Pride" then he would also be labeled a racist - and rightly so.... We have people like that, ya know, they are called the KKK.
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The KKK isn't a church. Also, I doubt the KKK would welcome a half-black member into their midst. Nor would the KKK welcome a fully black member into their midst.
White people attended Wright's church, too, you know.
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05-07-2008, 05:58 PM
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The KKK isn't a church. Also, I doubt the KKK would welcome a half-black member into their midst. Nor would the KKK welcome a fully black member into their midst.
White people attended Wright's church, too, you know.
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Yeah, but at the same time Oprah Winfrey who was a member during the 80's felt uncomfortable enough to leave the church primarily due to Rev Wright.
What is getting Obama is not that he attended the Church, that would not have been as damaging, it was his attesting that Wright was his spiritual mentor that hurt him. He tied himself too tightly to Wright, and thus Wright's comments reflected on Obama.
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05-07-2008, 06:00 PM
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Where? Where are those white people? Where are the video's?... Just because you say something - that doesn't make it true.
Perhaps you didn't understand the comparison of this church and the KKK, re-read. This church is exactly like the KKK - please point out to me how they are different? They both use the bible and crazy person to promote their message... Where exactly is the difference?
Any person with half a fuckin' brain can see this "church" for what it is... Perhaps ask Oprah, maybe she could share with you all the reasons she chose to leave. The only people saying this type of theology is acceptable, are the same people who continue to make excuses for unexcusable behavior. Quit being so damded ignorant and gullible.
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05-07-2008, 06:04 PM
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Where? Where are those white people? Where are the video's?... Just because you say something - that doesn't make it true.
Perhaps you didn't understand the comparison of this church and the KKK, re-read. This church is exactly like the KKK - please point out to me how they are different? They both use the bible and crazy person to promote their message... Where exactly is the difference?
Any person with half a fuckin' brain can see this "church" for what it is... Perhaps ask Oprah, maybe she could share with you all the reasons she chose to leave. The only people saying this type of theology is acceptable, are the same people who continue to make excuses for unexcusable behavior. Quit being so damded ignorant and gullible.
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YouTube - Fact Check: Barack Obama's Church
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05-07-2008, 06:13 PM
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Yeah, but at the same time Oprah Winfrey who was a member during the 80's felt uncomfortable enough to leave the church primarily due to Rev Wright.
What is getting Obama is not that he attended the Church, that would not have been as damaging, it was his attesting that Wright was his spiritual mentor that hurt him. He tied himself too tightly to Wright, and thus Wright's comments reflected on Obama.
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I agree with that. He tried to come off as more religious, perhaps, than he really is, and was caught.
I accept that. What I don't accept is that he follows the Rev. Wright's philosophy.
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05-07-2008, 06:16 PM
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Where? Where are those white people? Where are the video's?... Just because you say something - that doesn't make it true.
Perhaps you didn't understand the comparison of this church and the KKK, re-read. This church is exactly like the KKK - please point out to me how they are different? They both use the bible and crazy person to promote their message... Where exactly is the difference?
Any person with half a fuckin' brain can see this "church" for what it is... Perhaps ask Oprah, maybe she could share with you all the reasons she chose to leave. The only people saying this type of theology is acceptable, are the same people who continue to make excuses for unexcusable behavior. Quit being so damded ignorant and gullible.
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How about this? I'll check out the YouTube video that was just posted. And you go look for photos of Trinity Church with signs saying, "Keep Out Whitey." Or maybe you could find some instances of Church members intimidating white folks with burning crosses.....
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05-07-2008, 06:16 PM
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Hmmm. Right next to the Obama '08 link, and the "CLick Here to Make a Contribution" Link... Too funny. I swear Upton, you crack me up... you choose to see only what makes you happy... did you watch the video???? Or did ya just post a pasty white person? Besides, I am sure that whitey could be spotted a mile away... they were all on their best behavior. 
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05-07-2008, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by naturemomma
Read his books, perhaps that will clear it up for you....
Any white person that attended a church for twenty years, all the while promoting "White Pride" then he would also be labeled a racist - and rightly so.... We have people like that, ya know, they are called the KKK.
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I'm not going to read his books looking for support for your assertion. How about you just support it yourself?
That church is nothing like the KKK. As mentioned it's not exclusively black and is not racist in its' agenda.
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05-07-2008, 06:22 PM
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How about this? I'll check out the YouTube video that was just posted. And you go look for photos of Trinity Church with signs saying, "Keep Out Whitey." Or maybe you could find some instances of Church members intimidating white folks with burning crosses.....
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I read the books, perhaps you should educate yourself, and do the same. You keep bringing up the sufferage of many people, rather than looking at the candidate and his personal beliefs. You keep looking at slaves and their legacy, rather than looking at Obama and HIS friends. Do you really not see that this is the reaction they wish to create? Do you not see that these people are mass manipulators? Do you not see, that you only contribute to the problem? Do you not see, that YOU are the real racist? Are you really so naive and uneducated, that you can't see that????? Shame, there seems to be many of you in the world.
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