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05-04-2008, 11:44 AM
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Truly the oil companies are making more money. Exxon made 2.8% more in profit than last year. Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway made 20% more in profits. Exxon's profit margin actually fell so they made less money than the year before.
The gas tax holiday is apparently worth billions of dollars. That will help truckers, farmers and other who rely heavily upon gas and diesel for a living. It would at least temporarily ease the inflation on food and other goods due to raising fuel prices and would carry through the peak gas and diesel pricing. I think a temporary fix is silly myself, but it would save people billions, unless it is put on the oil companies who would then pass it on to consumers and thus be a back door tax.
As you like to say, people of the time were typically racist. It is just the way it was. Therefore for a white grandmother to step up and help raise young Obama took a lot of courage. Obama's white grandmother never gives interviews. Obama was relying on that fact to help him out. Obama is relying on people believing that someone who lived in a time of racist was a racist herself when her actions make that a lie.
Mike Nifong accused 3 white students and Duke lacrosse players of being rapists. He had no proof and there was evidence to the contrary. Obama accused his white grandmother of being a racist with no proof. All Obama has is the argument that she was a typical white person, when all evidence indicates that there was nothing typical about her. Even you should admit that raising a mixed child in the time would not be typical of the people of the time.
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Just having mixed-race grandbabies made his grandma atypical.
Nifong accused some white students whom he never knew of the crime, when he should have gone with the evidence.
Obama doesn't NEED evidence, you doofus. He has personal experience.
If it's the case that we mistrust all personal anecdotes, then I don't have any actual EVIDENCE that you won't end up voting for Obama. How do I know you're not just lying through your teeth, kpool? I'm not taking your word for it!
For all I know, you've got a giant "Obama '08" sign on your front lawn!

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05-04-2008, 11:50 AM
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The gas tax holiday is apparently worth billions of dollars. That will help truckers, farmers and other who rely heavily upon gas and diesel for a living. It would at least temporarily ease the inflation on food and other goods due to raising fuel prices and would carry through the peak gas and diesel pricing. I think a temporary fix is silly myself, but it would save people billions, unless it is put on the oil companies who would then pass it on to consumers and thus be a back door tax.
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The "billions of dollars" translates to not so much for the average citizen. And when the "holiday" expired, the bitching and moaning will begin again.
I'm not even defending taxing oil companies even more. I'm not even worried about the definition of "price gouging." From the little I understand about it, companies set their prices to what the market will bear. If they're "gouging" the market, then the market needs to fight back, in the form of consumers drastically reducing usage.
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05-04-2008, 12:10 PM
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He's like the proverbial broken record. Casting doubt on Obama seems to be a full-time job for kpool. And no matter how much people refute what he says, he's out there saying the same thing in a different thread (sometimes, in the very same one!)....
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Obama himself has said that Wright is an issue that needs to be discussed. Why are all the Obamites dead set against discussing Wright when Obama says it is a valid topic?
Why will no Obamite talk to me about gouging and windfall profits. Rice made a legitimate effort, but I am not sure she is an Obamite. Jinx ran to avoid talking about Obama's big oil posistions. Rasta keeps trying to change the topic. Upton, likely of the Obama campaign, runs away and will not talk oil policy.
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05-04-2008, 12:10 PM
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Reduce the consumption would be great but don't forget while we stop using it they are going to stop pummping it. so it is just going to keep going up. They don't want it to go down.
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05-04-2008, 12:39 PM
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Obama himself has said that Wright is an issue that needs to be discussed. Why are all the Obamites dead set against discussing Wright when Obama says it is a valid topic?
Why will no Obamite talk to me about gouging and windfall profits. Rice made a legitimate effort, but I am not sure she is an Obamite. Jinx ran to avoid talking about Obama's big oil posistions. Rasta keeps trying to change the topic. Upton, likely of the Obama campaign, runs away and will not talk oil policy.
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Why, thank you for recognizing my legitimate effort.
I'm not sure you're NOT an Obamite. 
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05-04-2008, 03:12 PM
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Just having mixed-race grandbabies made his grandma atypical.
Nifong accused some white students whom he never knew of the crime, when he should have gone with the evidence.
Obama doesn't NEED evidence, you doofus. He has personal experience.
If it's the case that we mistrust all personal anecdotes, then I don't have any actual EVIDENCE that you won't end up voting for Obama. How do I know you're not just lying through your teeth, kpool? I'm not taking your word for it!
For all I know, you've got a giant "Obama '08" sign on your front lawn!

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So you concede that white grandma Obama was atypical.
Where is Obama's proof? What evidence can he provide that white grandma Oama was a typical white person when her whole life was atypical. Why should we trust Obama as his stories keep changing and are often false? He said he could not disown Wright, he did. Obama says oil companies are price gouging but they only make 10%. Obama says a lot of things that change depending on his audience. Obama is not credible.
As for me, as you have said I am consistant. I do not change my story like Obama. You disagree with my interpretation of Obama's speech, but I do not present blantant lies. I even have admitted that I could be mistaken in my interpretation, but I present other things that Obama and his cadre have said and done to back up my opinion.
Obama gives you that white grandma Obama said racial stereotypes that made him cringe. His proof later was that she was a typical white person from the time, when all the evidence shows that white grandma Obama was not typical. Like Nifong, Obama declares guilt with all evidence indicating a lack of guilt. The Duke players where rich and white and one of them used the 'n' word, white grandma Obama made racial stereotypes that made young Obama cringe. Nifong used the Duke players for political purposes. Obama uses his atypical/typical white person for political purposes.
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05-04-2008, 04:33 PM
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Oh I understand that, however you're the one who is too lazy to post the difference btwn the debt and deficit spending conducted by Reagan-Bush I and Bush II and FDR. Also, how much will 9 trillion dollars of debt and defcits rung up by Reagan-Bush's be worth 40 years from now!!!!
By the way, FDR pulled this country out of the depths of depression which was caused by Republicans spending tactics and corruptions. Looks like its going to take another FDR type Presidency to correct all the damaged caused by another generation of corrupt, theiving, and irresponsible Republican Presidents. History repeats itself....wouldn't you agree?
I noticed you haven't said anything about the corresive results and tax payer rip offs of 40 years of Corporate Welfare programs over the last 40 years which have cost tax payers more than social welfare programs.......care to comment, spin, or rationalize this fact????
By the way, I like the Rich.......they taste really good at BBQ's, especially with a little salt and butter!!!
ANYWAY, SOAK THE RICH, AND ROAST THE RICH!!!
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Care to post a link to support those statements.
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05-04-2008, 04:39 PM
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This an example of classic Conserva-tard Circle Jerk-off! Neither of you two Knuckle Dragger's has proven your comments backed up with any reliable sources. No surprise there.
Every paranoid Caucasian is so afraid of Wright. Not one of the major corporate cable news media anchor have gone one-on-one with Wright on his sermon. Only Bill Moyer has given Wright to explain his sermon. The news media for the sake of ratings just played sound bytes of the sermon, to scare whites over sound bytes. Why are whites so afraid to discuss the issues??? When are the everyday conservative-Ray gun Democrat whites going to grow a pair and realize they have nothing to fear but fear itself. Why are you afraid of your own shadows.
Rev Wright is an after thought! The voters 18-30 are not buying the paranoid-conserva-tard the sky is falling perpetuated by the news media. So KP, do us all a favor, when go nite-nite, make sure your house is secured, grab your pillow (bite it) and pray Rev Wright doesn't come for you.
Pat Robertson, the Dobbs Freak, Fat Ass Hagee, and Jerry Falwell (may he rest in HELL), have all preached seperatist, racial, gender bias hate sermons, yet the cock sucking news media do not beat the hell out of them....DO THEY!!! GOD DAMN THOSE AFORE MENTIONED PASTOR FREAKS---FUCK EM.
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Give them hell!!
I am going back to the ignorant anti-semitic posts,you have this one well covered.
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05-04-2008, 04:47 PM
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Obama won't win because he hates America and people are going to see through his lies when the general election comes around.
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05-04-2008, 05:27 PM
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Give them hell!!
I am going back to the ignorant anti-semitic posts,you have this one well covered.
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You need to slander more Jews? You certainly are supporting the candidate of the destroy Israel crowd.
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