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Old 02-13-2008, 04:00 PM
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Demorats ARE communist......how come Hillary serves as treasurer for a communist organization operating on a college campus?
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:05 PM
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Libs never cease to amaze--this is reminiscent of the constant liberal whining and accusations of vote fraud every year when they lose--and yet there has never been even one proven case. Similar is this constant whining for links--when the info I provide has been proven accurate 99% of the time.
Uh huh.

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But since they insist on pain--I must oblige--to now verify why Obama is the #1 Liberal--here is a link for it

Political positions of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In January 2008, a comprehensive analysis by the National Taxpayers Union found that Obama's presidential campaign proposals would increase the federal budget by $287 billion"


The NTU states it as a press release but does not provide ANY info about how they came to the conclusion. Because they are inherently conservative they have an inbuilt bias. I would like to see how this breaks down. I have dug around & nowhere is it shown.



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"Obama supports a guest worker program.[48] Obama has said that he "will not support any bill that does not provide [an] earned path to citizenship for the undocumented population."

Obama does not believe that twelve million illegal immigrants can be sent back. He said "It's not going to happen. We're not going to go round them up ... We should give them a pathway to citizenship"
Yup a realistic way of dealing with it. Glad it freaks you out.

An earned path to citizen ship is better than some mass EXTREMELY expensive bussed deportation feel good reactive mindset.


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YOU MAY DISAGREE THAT OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST--BUT WHEN YOUR RATED AS THE #1 MOST LIBERAL....LIBERAL--YOU CAN CONCLUDE OBAMA IS THE CLOSEST THING TO A COMMUNIST IN THIS COUNTRY!!

Comrades--get ready.
Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Communism- a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production.[1] It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution[2]. Opponents say that communism is an ideology, whereas promoters say that it is the only political system without ideology, because it is the consequence of historical materialism and the revolution of the proletariat.[citation needed] Although many forms of communism, such as Leninism, Trotskyism and Luxemburgism, are based on Marxism and Karl Marx is sometimes known as the "father of Communism", non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist.

Sorry none of what you presented is anything close to your favorite dead fish accusation. As usual Bad propaganda from you.

No communism.

Liberal agenda yes & that's a good thing.

Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment.

Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals — as well as some adherents of other political ideologies — support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law



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Old 02-13-2008, 04:07 PM
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Demorats ARE communist......how come Hillary serves as treasurer for a communist organization operating on a college campus?
No they are not.

Who cares she's not going to win.
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:32 PM
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The Kennedys have now denounced Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton and Billary Clinton have been caught denouncing OBAMMA. This video production is full of news clips of Billary and Hillary. There are many pauses in the video production, some lasting up to 10 seconds each. Be sure to watch the production fully to get all of the information.

The Clintons are now finished. The Clintons are truly scum.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZevTVPlfJ4
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:23 PM
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Uh huh.

The NTU states it as a press release but does not provide ANY info about how they came to the conclusion. Because they are inherently conservative they have an inbuilt bias. I would like to see how this breaks down. I have dug around & nowhere is it shown.
Well this was unexpected....not--libs whine about not posting links--and then when you post the links--the libs whine about the source. Once again proving THERE IS NO PLEASING LIBERALS!!
(Ex. Libs whine about our foreign oil dependence in one breath--and these same libs whine about drilling for our own oil in the next)

So you don't believe Obama's spending increase amounts to 287 BILLION!!--WELL HOW MUCH IS IT THEN CROWN. Lets be "conservative" and say its only 250 BILLION--ITS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATES (Including Hitlary)

IF YOU LIKE OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT SPENDING--VOTE OBAMA!!

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Yup a realistic way of dealing with it. Glad it freaks you out.

An earned path to citizen ship is better than some mass EXTREMELY expensive bussed deportation feel good reactive mindset.
Well you heard it here folks--Crown and Obama are huge supporters of AMNESTY!!

And crown--how much were the transportation costs for the US-- when 30 million criminals (future democrats) decided to break our laws and invade our country????? $0.00

How much will it cost the US when these 30 million criminals SELF DEPORT??? $0.00

Self deportation will work--that is unless Obama and the democrats give out amnesty first--as they are planning and hoping.
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Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Communism- a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production.[1] It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution[2]. Opponents say that communism is an ideology, whereas promoters say that it is the only political system without ideology, because it is the consequence of historical materialism and the revolution of the proletariat.[citation needed] Although many forms of communism, such as Leninism, Trotskyism and Luxemburgism, are based on Marxism and Karl Marx is sometimes known as the "father of Communism", non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist.

Sorry none of what you presented is anything close to your favorite dead fish accusation. As usual Bad propaganda from you.

No communism.
You seriously can listen to Hussein--and then read the communism definiton--and see no similarities???? What are you reading there Stevie Wonder?--try the definition below--it might help you.


Main Entry: com·mu·nism
Pronunciation: \ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-\
Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2capitalized a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d: communist systems collectively


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Liberal agenda yes & that's a good thing.
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Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment.

Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals — as well as some adherents of other political ideologies — support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law
Again, I think your missing it. Here is a better definition

Main Entry: lib·er·al·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1819
1: the quality or state of being liberal
2: insanity, an unstable mind and ideology
3: see (Barrack Obama)
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:43 PM
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Well this was unexpected....not--libs whine about not posting links--and then when you post the links--the libs whine about the source. Once again proving THERE IS NO PLEASING LIBERALS!!
(Ex. Libs whine about our foreign oil dependence in one breath--and these same libs whine about drilling for our own oil in the next)
I speak for myself to you. I don't represent a group. Something you really don't grasp.

I like facts. Not a press release that does not give a breakdown of how they came to the conclusion. They are a conservative group with an inherent bias, that does not present details. At that point it's just opinion. I understand you just want to use biased opinions & say they are facts but that just doesn't work for me.

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So you don't believe Obama's spending increase amounts to 287 BILLION!!--WELL HOW MUCH IS IT THEN CROWN. Lets be "conservative" and say its only 250 BILLION--ITS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATES (Including Hitlary)
I don't have enough factual info to form an opinion & neither do you.
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IF YOU LIKE OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT SPENDING--VOTE OBAMA!!
That's just conjecture. So in all reality it means nothing.



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Well you heard it here folks--Crown and Obama are huge supporters of AMNESTY!!
No, I'm a supporter of finding real world practical solutions not sloganeering. Something you obviously cannot grasp.

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And crown--how much were the transportation costs for the US-- when 30 million criminals (future democrats) decided to break our laws and invade our country????? $0.00
Who knows? I have no freakin' clue & based on your record so far neither do you. Just more manipulative framing by you.

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How much will it cost the US when these 30 million criminals SELF DEPORT??? $0.00
You are asking irrelevant questions.

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Self deportation will work--that is unless Obama and the democrats give out amnesty first--as they are planning and hoping.
It will work when we use the existing laws to fine all the corporations who hire illegal immigrants. Simple.

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You seriously can listen to Hussein--and then read the communism definiton--and see no similarities???? What are you reading there Stevie Wonder?--try the definition below--it might help you.
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Main Entry: com·mu·nism
Pronunciation: \ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-\
Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2capitalized a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d: communist systems collectively
Ya & it has no relevance what so ever to Obama. So you didn't make a point just showed you can copy paste a definition.

wow.



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Again, I think your missing it. Here is a better definition

Main Entry: lib·er·al·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1819
1: the quality or state of being liberal
2: insanity, an unstable mind and ideology
3: see (Barrack Obama)
No, that's quite clear. You Badpropaganda will distort anything to create a false construct definition to fit your delusional world. Like no one knew that.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:59 AM
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Is that what this is? The "Obama hate thread"?

Give it up, you can't win that way!

Nah man, don't you know?

Everyone who's life that guy has touched, has nothing but good things to say about him. No one that knows him, has anything bad to say about him!

The only bad things being said about the guy, are comin' from either: his political opponent on the opposite side of the aisle, OR, his political opponent on the same side of the aisle!

I really don't think it's gonna work, "smearing" the guy as a liberal elitist. People are gonna go, "so what?" Anything to save us from that God-awful mess that's going on now! You could run Lester P. Coltrane for President, and he'd probably win against any Republican. No United States citizen in their right minds (and there are still a lot of us, believe me), is going to sit idly by while the President of the United States violates his Oath of Office and tramples on every single Constitutional Right he's supposed to protect. Nah, those Neo-Morons are history, and all that means is, the rest of the Party is in shambles 'cause those guys were more-or-less "in charge". So now, the Reps are leader-less, and they're gonna have to re-build the coalition, and it'll take some time.

Meanwhile, it seems to me, the only real choice, is to try to choose the most palatable Democrat possible, and I don't know about you, but in my eyes, Obama is a heck of a lot more palatable than Hillary is.

(I'm a life-long Republican by the way, just to add context - but I'll be a monkey's uncle if I'm gonna let any of those Neo-Weasels anywhere the White House anymore, and I just don't know how many of those idiots are gonna come along with McCain, and I'm not willing to take the risk, so Obama's gettin' my vote, 'cause Hillary is just Bush in drag, as far as I can tell).
First off I just have to say welcome to AWE.
Second I like your writing style. It's very clear & a good read.
Third I have to say you put together in essence why Obama is capturing that unquantifiable ...it.

The whole thing reminds me of the Blockbuster phenomena in film.
Or what I like to call the 'Spelbergian' effect.

Hollywood is always chasing the tail of the 'blockbuster'. Someone like Spielberg with Jaws makes this fantastic film that changes the game.
Why did Jaws become the blockbuster? Well you can do all the post analysis but at it's core he had a vision & followed it & it was fantastic & made a hell of a lot of money.

Hollywood is always behind the curve. It's the nature of the business.
What happens in essence is someone makes a great film from their heart, their soul. They do something fantastic in execution. After that everyone else tries to emulate, recreate & market it in Hollywood but in reality all they are doing is chasing ghosts. Because they never were able to capture the alchemy in the first place, the power & inspiration of the persons inner being that manifested the phenomena in the first place.

That in essence is Obama & why no one else whom is in opposition to him gets it.

You do & write it eloquently.

Thanks for your input.
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uuuhhhhh I hate to inform you , he sat down beside hillary and they have the same plan with just different view on how to fund it and a few different tweeks on it. He is all for universal health care (socialized medicine) That is a fact it came out of his own mouth you should watch all his debates I think you missed the most critical ones.
I admit I haven't seen every debate. but at one time he was not for universla healthcare- only fixing our current system. either he or his camp were linked with some anti-UHC material.

I still like him though. I'm willing to stay with him even if we disagree here and there
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:09 PM
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So to recap Obama so far, please remember:

Spending
If you like the idea of big government and the out of control spending that goes with it--Vote Obama!

If you like the idea of an EXTRA 280 BILLION DOLLAR INCREASE IN TAXES--Vote Obama!

If you want your taxes to go up--Vote Obama!!

Immigration

If you support the idea of AMNESTY--Vote Obama

If you want 30 million new http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/gen...at-voters.html sucking on the democrat provided social tit (your wallet)--Vote Obama!


Now remember this next time your crying after an Obama speech. Obama wants more of your money and wants to give our country away. Now many of you are so in love with Hussein's speaking ability--you won't be swayed yet. So we must continue your treatments. So lets take a look at Obama's policy on.....

Gun Control
--to summarize Obama's position--HE WANTS YOUR GUNS--AS WELL AS YOUR MONEY!
--Obama wants to ban semi-automatic weapons--if your ok with that--HE ALSO WANTS TO BAN ALL HAND GUNS!
--Obama supports limiting YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS--to one day per month.
--Obama wants criminal charges brought against YOU--if YOU shoot someone in your home in an act of SELF DEFENSE! Like most libs--he is more worried about the rights of CRIMINALS than your rights!

The NRA rating system gave Obama an F--Obama is a true enemy of YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

If you want change--as in changing the constitution and taking away your rights--VOTE OBAMA!
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So to recap Obama so far, please remember:

Spending
If you like the idea of big government and the out of control spending that goes with it--Vote Obama!

If you like the idea of an EXTRA 280 BILLION DOLLAR INCREASE IN TAXES--Vote Obama!

If you want your taxes to go up--Vote Obama!!

Immigration

If you support the idea of AMNESTY--Vote Obama

If you want 30 million new http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/gen...at-voters.html sucking on the democrat provided social tit (your wallet)--Vote Obama!


Now remember this next time your crying after an Obama speech. Obama wants more of your money and wants to give our country away. Now many of you are so in love with Hussein's speaking ability--you won't be swayed yet. So we must continue your treatments. So lets take a look at Obama's policy on.....

Gun Control
--to summarize Obama's position--HE WANTS YOUR GUNS--AS WELL AS YOUR MONEY!
--Obama wants to ban semi-automatic weapons--if your ok with that--HE ALSO WANTS TO BAN ALL HAND GUNS!
--Obama supports limiting YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS--to one day per month.
--Obama wants criminal charges brought against YOU--if YOU shoot someone in your home in an act of SELF DEFENSE! Like most libs--he is more worried about the rights of CRIMINALS than your rights!

The NRA rating system gave Obama an F--Obama is a true enemy of YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

If you want change--as in changing the constitution and taking away your rights--VOTE OBAMA!
And worst of all, knuckle dragging bigots like you will have to call him your president.
Bwhahahahahahahahahhaa !!!!

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