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01-10-2008, 06:54 PM
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I'll be right back, I'm going to get Elvis a webster's, that guy doesn't understand the difference between NON-INTERVENTIONIST & ISOLATIONIST. There is a very significant difference.
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01-10-2008, 06:55 PM
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he is a copmplete isolationist who want to stick our head in the sand and hide, and nearly everyone in the debates told him how crazy
that is. He also doesn't believe the federal governmnet has a role to do ANYTHING and votes against every appropriations bill. he may be trying to make a point, but that is just silly and doesn't help anyone
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He has a point, and it is one that everyone seems to be missing. It is called constitutional authority.
Why is it when one speaks of removing ourselves from parts of the world where we no longer need to be (like Europe, Japan, Korea, or Iraq for that matter), that view is considered isolationist?? What good reason do we need to be, or continue to be, in any of those areas?? Why??
In the way of Europe: WWII has ended, and I believe that we can reasonably state that the Marshall Plan was a success, wouldn't you agree? So, why are we still there??
On the Korean peninsula, I have been there; they don't want us there. Same for Japan. Why do we continue to spend billions upon billions of dollars in maintaining troops in these areas, when clearly, in the constitution, it states that congress is to maintain common defence of these United States. That is obviously money that could be better suited for use here at home, wouldn't you agree??
On your assertion of what the role of the federal government should be, all I and others ask is, what does the constitution say about that?? Not what our "so-called" leaders in the District of Confusion are willing to tell us, but what is their proper function??
I am willing to guess that there aren't many politicians that even know what the constitution really states....
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01-10-2008, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by IcyPeaceMaker
I'll be right back, I'm going to get Elvis a webster's, that guy doesn't understand the difference between NON-INTERVENTIONIST & ISOLATIONIST. There is a very significant difference.
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It seems that many get those confused....
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01-10-2008, 06:57 PM
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Gotta go, but I will definately return.
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"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."
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01-10-2008, 07:04 PM
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They closed almost all our domestic bases, because they had nobody to assign there anymore. Instead, we put bases in other countries and boost their economy instead of our own. Despite the fact that we don't need to be there and they don't want us there. Idiots run the pentagon and Washington.
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01-10-2008, 07:11 PM
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For guy whith no shot in hell people sure waste there time trying to discredit him.
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It's the only way to counter all the WoW hacking and cyber advertisements that Ron Paul tries. Colbert Bump convinced thousands of teenagers that he was the bees knees. Internet campaigning by Paul has made Barack Obama's appeal to teenagers look similar to the unlikely event that Richard Nixon would try to hang out at an SDS rally.
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01-10-2008, 07:31 PM
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You want to get the weight of our Economic Tsunami, watch this Glen Beck Interview with the Head of the Governmental Accounting Office David Walker - Comptroller General of the United States.
YouTube - Glenn Beck - The Real Story, Touching the Third Rail
To me, it’s not about fear but about responsibility. Fear is what got us in this mess, courage is what will get us out.
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01-11-2008, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by IcyPeaceMaker
You want to get the weight of our Economic Tsunami, watch this Glen Beck Interview with the Head of the Governmental Accounting Office David Walker - Comptroller General of the United States.
YouTube - Glenn Beck - The Real Story, Touching the Third Rail
To me, it’s not about fear but about responsibility. Fear is what got us in this mess, courage is what will get us out.
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I just looked at it. That is some scary crap. This is exactly what Ron Paul is talking about, but he has been called everything from a kook, to a certifiable nutcase.
I hear some on here that continue to tell us "oh, it will be okay. We will be fine." Yeah, we'll just continue to allow the feds to print worthless-ass paper money, because as far as most americans are concerned, as long as there is printed money in circulation, it must have some value....
If this country were a major corporation, it would out of business as of now (Enron anyone). What we have at present are our "elected officials" cooking the damn books, period.
Which one of the mainstream candidates has spoke on this matter? Who folks?? Oh, we have alot of bulls**t talk about change (the catch phrase of this presidential campaign). But what they are really intending to do is keep that status quo train going for as long as they can. They realize that most americans are too ignorant to seek REAL change, and most americans remain polorized so as to vote along party lines.
It reminds me of a situation that I encountered with a young soldier of mine sometime ago. This soldier had an understanding that, as long as he had bank checks in his possession, then he had money to spend. He thought that checks are the same as money, period. What I had to explain to this soldier was that, yes, they can be like money, as long as you maintained the matching monetary funds in your account so those checks are covered.
Folks, that is the mindset we are at right now. Our federal leaders are continuing to write checks that we can't cash. Mortgaging the house, when there is no house to mortgage.
We can tax until the heavens open up. It won't mean squat. And I don't want to hear about this being a Bush thing. It is a federal government thing. And if you continue to listen to these people promise you everything under the moon with nothing to cover it when the collection man comes knocking at the door, then you are no better than those officials inside the District of Confusion.
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01-11-2008, 03:45 AM
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I sincerely believe that the crash is coming, the fed is using a delaying tactic to try to keep it under control until the election is over. I don't think they'll be able to shield the truth very much longer.
What I'm hoping for, is that it comes sooner rather than later, while Ron Paul has a chance to ride to the rescue.
You're right, they have driven the divisive wedge of partisan politics so deep that having Americans close ranks against them is going to take a crisis.
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