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Old 04-19-2008, 04:59 PM
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No, McCain doesn't have to double his security staff; he's an American hero...
He's a Hero only to conservatives and Reagan Democrats like yourself!!!
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Old 04-19-2008, 06:37 PM
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:34 PM
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Hillary Clinton, the greatest First Lady in the history of America has won New Hampshire... Hillary will also win Nevada, and South Carolina in the coming days... Why will she win?

Hillary stands for the voice of reason, experience, and wisdom... Hillary is a natural leader, and would have never invaded a country for oil...

Hillary shared the White House with the greatest President America has ever had, and all the great things President Clintion accomplished during his Presidency was destroyed after GWB took office...

Obama is a fluke, a Liar, a cheat and his rollercoaster ride is over...

Your dreaming, the prophet from Chicago will win and then be crushed by John McCain.
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:54 PM
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Your dreaming, the prophet from Chicago will win and then be crushed by John McCain.
Keep Dreaming.....McCain is too Freaking old, and is already showing "Senior Moments" when it comes to Shia and Sunnai!!!

You conservatives will be lucky to generate 46 million votes.....Obama will easily bring 50-52 million voters out to the polls.
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:18 PM
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After reading all these posts, I still don't see any valid reasons to vote or not vote.
The Bush Administration has failed in both foreign and domestic policy. I don't see anything being done to solve problems as long as he remains in office. Removing him from office would put Cheney in the White House. Out of the frying pan into the fire.
McCain wants to continue many of those failed policies.
Clinton and Obama are basically the same coin, separate sides. Obama is a colored person who talks about high ideals. That appeals to many people who are tired of a president with no ideals. Clinton is a female who has a firmer grasp on what is going on, and promises to fight for everyone. That appeals to many people who are tired of losing their rights because of a war that is not really a war.
But voting for either one of them is voting for a novelty, not a vote for change. Policies are not made by individuals, they are made by Party's. I don't see either one of them discussing anything of substance that is relevant to the problems at hand that need to be solved. They are both going to continue doing what every other administration has done in the last 20 years. React instead of pro-act.
Why discuss health care as if our economy depends on it? Our economy depends on the current rash of foreclosures coming to an end asap. What is either one of them planning to do about it? Economic stimulus plans being discussed are only going to put a band-aid on a gaping wound. The Bush Administration is against changing current foreclosure laws. What are the Democrats proposing? Americans keeping their homes is the really the biggest issue. If our economy fails, then so do all the other policies.

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Old 04-20-2008, 10:47 PM
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He's a Hero only to conservatives and Reagan Democrats like yourself!!!
I did like Reagan, however, I was too young during his Presidency to vote for him... I really think that America is in trouble, and it all started on September 11, 2001... Ameria's "Super Image" was damaged on that day' and getting it back will be a difficult task... The American dollar continues to lose it's value, and this should be enough to have every real American worried... The only candidate I see with the ability to turn things around is Hillary Clinton... I know that Hillary isn't really all that great compared to her husband, or even Al Gore; however, she is the best choice in November... Bill Clinton, who truly loves America will help turn America's weak economy around and also restore America's image internationally...
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:17 AM
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I did like Reagan, however, I was too young during his Presidency to vote for him... I really think that America is in trouble, and it all started on September 11, 2001... Ameria's "Super Image" was damaged on that day' and getting it back will be a difficult task... The American dollar continues to lose it's value, and this should be enough to have every real American worried... The only candidate I see with the ability to turn things around is Hillary Clinton... I know that Hillary isn't really all that great compared to her husband, or even Al Gore; however, she is the best choice in November... Bill Clinton, who truly loves America will help turn America's weak economy around and also restore America's image internationally...

Oh, Is that why he signed NAFTA & GATT?
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:28 AM
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I did like Reagan, however, I was too young during his Presidency to vote for him... I really think that America is in trouble, and it all started on September 11, 2001... Ameria's "Super Image" was damaged on that day' and getting it back will be a difficult task... The American dollar continues to lose it's value, and this should be enough to have every real American worried... The only candidate I see with the ability to turn things around is Hillary Clinton... I know that Hillary isn't really all that great compared to her husband, or even Al Gore; however, she is the best choice in November... Bill Clinton, who truly loves America will help turn America's weak economy around and also restore America's image internationally...
Well Fly, here's an interesting insightful post by (BILL THOMPSON-NEW MEMBER @ AWE) you may find interesting on how perhaps millions may feel about Hillary:

Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President


When Bill Clinton came to Microsoft to give a speech, he was received warmly by a crowd who were impressed by his wisdom and his view of a better, more helpful and compassionate world. People naturally are drawn to and appreciate an intelligent, well-spoken person who can think on their feet. He touched on a lot of issues and he had a lot of great one-liners in dealing with world events such as "Osama bin Laden likes technology just like the west likes technology. But bin Laden likes it exclusively and the west likes it inclusively". While the crowd was left pondering this gem, Clinton would either throw out either another line of insight, or a line of wisdom or a line of encouragement. This left the group constantly intrigued and mentally stimulated.

There was a question-and-answer period at the end of this speech and Clinton answered each with detail and precision. One woman asked if he could hold a Cabinet position in a Hillary presidency. Specifically, I believe she asked if he could be secretary of state.

The former president said, "That is a good question. The answer is no." And then he explained that a law was passed – I believe during the Lyndon Johnson administration – that said an immediate family member of the president can not be in the cabinet. This had something do to with Bobby Kennedy being in John Kennedy's Cabinet and a president can not or should not have to fire a family member. President Clinton went on to say that he thought that this was actually a very good idea.

This makes me wonder because Hillary was in charge of revamping the Health Care system during Bill Clinton's presidency. But on the other hand, this really was not a position of power.

(#1) A Hillary Clinton Presidency will not Mirror the Years of the Bill Clinton Presidency
This leads me to the first reason why Hillary Clinton will not be the Democratic nominee for president.

I always suspected that the only reason why many people liked Hillary Clinton was because of the run-off charisma from her husband. When I first noticed her surfacing as a candidate for president, I was at a loss as to why so many people liked her and they seemed to like her very much. I went to several liberal and progressive web forums. They seemed to be upset by my just asking the question as if I was questioning some divine prophecy. Trying to get into the heads and understanding how liberals think is often difficult. Ann Coulter might be wrong about a lot of things, but one thing I think she gets right is that Liberalism is like a church. You can not question the divine doctrine or those who are appointed the Pope of the Church of Liberalism – doing so will get you banished from the Progressive web forums.

Regardless, without any other reason for supposing why people liked Hillary, I was left with only the name recognition and the face recognition and their subconscious appreciation of happier times. When all possible reasons are discounted, the only reason left, no matter how improbable, is the only possible explanation.

My suspicions were confirmed by several people who would openly admit "I miss Bill" when I am talking about having a president Hillary.

Well, it is time for me to officially burst this bubble. As Bill Clinton said himself, he can not be placed into any real position of power in a Hillary presidency.

So now ask yourself this. If you could erase Bill Clinton from the picture – if you could remove the association between Bill and Hillary, would you still be excited about Hillary Clinton being president?

You might tell yourself that since Hillary seemed to be a powerful player when Bill was president, it might work the other way. It would not. The two have very different personalities and ideologies and interpersonal skills and management styles. Bill is a charismatic intellectual while Hillary is a driven, ambitious and power-hungry leftist ideologue. Switch the seats of power and you have a very different administration and, as a result, a more troubling future for our country.

Being the wife of Bill Clinton should not be a reason why you would want to support Hillary. A Hillary Clinton Presidency will not be any way like the Bill Clinton Presidency.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:38 AM
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I did like Reagan, however, I was too young during his Presidency to vote for him... I really think that America is in trouble, and it all started on September 11, 2001... Ameria's "Super Image" was damaged on that day' and getting it back will be a difficult task... The American dollar continues to lose it's value, and this should be enough to have every real American worried... The only candidate I see with the ability to turn things around is Hillary Clinton... I know that Hillary isn't really all that great compared to her husband, or even Al Gore; however, she is the best choice in November... Bill Clinton, who truly loves America will help turn America's weak economy around and also restore America's image internationally...
This post certainly goes to the point that you are clueless.

America's image wasn't all that great prior to September 11, 2001 but we did get the sympathy of the world on that day and had the biggest group of allies we've ever had...granted it didn't take long to screw that up.

Clinton can't even keep her campaign economy in the black...she is currently one million in the red...Obama on the other hand has 41.5 million cash on hand.
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This post certainly goes to the point that you are clueless.

America's image wasn't all that great prior to September 11, 2001 but we did get the sympathy of the world on that day and had the biggest group of allies we've ever had...granted it didn't take long to screw that up.

Clinton can't even keep her campaign economy in the black...she is currently one million in the red...Obama on the other hand has 41.5 million cash on hand.
It is supprising how much money he is bringing in. And they say we are in a recession.

I guess the walfar checks are doing some good. Get walfar and sign the check over tho Obama so he can raise the taxes and cut walfar to save money.
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