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Old 01-21-2008, 12:42 PM
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I agree.

I'm a woman and I don't believe any woman should be President.

My reason? Women react to stressful situations with emotion. Men react with logic. And I do mean men in both parties. Women don't have the emotional control that men do. Plain and simple.
I tend to agree based on my personal experiences. I thank you for being honest enough as a woman to admit it. I would also add I don't think of it as an inferior quality. Just not as effective in certain situations. I will be the first to admit we males have our weak points too.
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I tend to agree based on my personal experiences. I thank you for being honest enough as a woman to admit it. I would also add I don't think of it as an inferior quality. Just not as effective in certain situations. I will be the first to admit we males have our weak points too.
Nor do I see it as an inferior quality. It's just the plain and simple truth.

Men have weaknesses. My bubble has been burst.
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:58 PM
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Nor do I see it as an inferior quality. It's just the plain and simple truth.

Men have weaknesses. My bubble has been burst.
Ah the tricky temptress letting the gullible man believe he's got it all figured out.

I know your kind.
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I agree.

I'm a woman and I don't believe any woman should be President.

My reason? Women react to stressful situations with emotion. Men react with logic. And I do mean men in both parties. Women don't have the emotional control that men do. Plain and simple.

Upon edit: If I had read a little further, I would have see that you said the same thing.


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The Iroquois Confederacy

The Iroquois republic had continuously existed since the 14th or 15th century. In 1930, Arthur Pound 's Johnson of the Mohawk states, wrote "with the possible exception of the also unwritten British Constitution, deriving from the Magna Carta, the Iroquois Constitution is the longest-existing international constitution in the world." Known ad "The Great Law of Peace," this orally transmitted constitution describes a federal union of five (later six) Indian nations: Mohawk, Onondagam Seneca, Oneida, Cayuga and the Tscarora, adopted in 1715. It was only put in writing in 1915 by Arthur C. Parker, archeologist for the State Museum of New York.


Even Marx and Engels drew on Iroquois models to support their theories and designs. Engels, like the American revolutionaries a century earlier, was impressed with the Iroquois ' ability to achieve economic equality without coercion and to maintain social consensus without a large state apparatus. It is interesting to note that the roots of American democratic government and communism came from similar ideologies =96 one emphasizing individualism and the other communal holdings =96 both key elements held in balance by the Iroquois. Other scholars see a prototype for the 20th century United Nations in Iroquois thought and constitution.

Each of the Iroquois nations was represented to the Confederate Council by a lord of the confederacy and one war chief. Their league included a system of checks and balances, and no action could be taken without the approval of all five Indian nations. Their notions of equality and liberty extended to women as well as men. In war, they never enslaved captives but offered to adopt those willing to accept the Great Law. Their own members could be alienated or expelled by not following the Great Law, and a non-member could be adopted by proposal or invitation with approval from the lords.

In their constitution, the lords of the confederacy are described as mentors and spiritual guides of the people; their hearts are to be full of peace and goodwill, and their minds full of yearning for the welfare of the people, including those of future generations, their words and actions are to be marked by calm deliberation. They must be honest and have no self-interest; if they become wayward they receive warnings first from the clan women then from the men. If they persist in negative behaviors, they ultimately lose their position and possibly their life. The lords are poorer than the common people. They own few material possessions, and give away presents or plunder acquired by treaty or war. They are above pettiness and corruption, and show no signs of selfishness.

AND>>>>>:-)

Unlike Europe, the Iroquois society was matri-lineal.

* Women* owned the land and the status of their lineage. They owned all possessions of their husbands after marriage :-O

except their horse and rifle;-)

they took charge off the money, and were the tribe 's educators and communicators of tradition. They female heirs of the lords of the confederacy were called royaneh (noble). The lord of the confederacy was nominated by women =96 selected for qualities of trustworthiness, good character, honesty, faithfulness to the people and the nation, support of the family, and good management of personal affairs. There was not state religion, and the religious rites and festivals of each nation were safeguarded against being disturbed or interrupted. Civil duties were separated from those of the religious leaders, and festivals were held in the longhouses.

In examining the vision of our forefathers and the many hundreds of years of the Iroquois confederacy 's success, we see how far we have strayed in just over two hundred years. More and more a nation of law and order, with vast class and economic distinctions and political favoritism, we would do well to reeducate ourselves in the values of the Iroquois =96 honesty, good character, honor, the power of the spoken word and public opinion.

AND the high status of women.

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Ah the tricky temptress letting the gullible man believe he's got it all figured out.

I know your kind.

LOL. Damn, you got me.
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I will tell you this and it is one thing that is important (in a specific way).

It has been proposed to me (very convincingly) the Supreme Court should be made up of close to half females. Like it or not that high court DOES make decisions that do effect the way gender is looked at in terms of court rulings. This covers a number of things from abortion, to work rules, to divorce rulings, etc etc. I happen to beleive in this and Hillary Clinton would be more inclined to to appoint a women to the SC (there are some very good circuit court judges right now...this was really looked at by Bush---and don't mention Harriet Meyers because that was total BS on his part).

The supreme court should be based on unbiased law not emotion. Thats the problem with female candidates, they are too emotional. The fact that hillary would appoint a women to the sc is another good reason to not vote for her. I don't think everyone deserves the right to vote. Thats what got us into such a shitty situation in the first place.

Feminism or not, more than half the population is female in this country. That is pretty damn good logic in itself to say we should have a female president and SC judges that better reflect who we actually are.
Government is not meant to reflect who we actually are. Emotions have no place in government or courts.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:11 PM
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There is no difference in the variation you get in females to males. There is range from right to left but the facts are that many more females should be in the legislative and courts 'pipeline' of our system.
why so we can waste more taxpayer money?
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:23 PM
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Allowed to be president? It is sad that a young woman would believe such nonsense. Do you honeatly think that the people who raise the children of this country can't run it?
I don't just believe that it is a fact. She won't win though and if she does the country will fall apart.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:26 PM
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Flyhigher-you may simply be the dumbest person who I have ever encountered. Period. No runner up. You are it. I almost hope Hillary does win the election just to make a public spectable of how misdirected she is. I truly believe (with the exception of Tiny Tim and John Kerry) she is by far the worst candidate to ever hit the street. I cannot believe people are really so gullible and stupid as to believe the garbage that spews from her mouth. I may not be that smart myself but at least I am smart enough to know it.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:57 PM
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After what Bush has done, I don't think ANYONE, male, female, monkey or ass could be any worse. It will take this nation a good 30 years to fix what that retard has done. and we will never fix what giving females and minorities the right to vote has done
Also, allow me to address the statement you made about some things being better left to men. Do you like where this country has ended up? Do you feel the politics of men have a stabilizing effect on the US? Do you believe that our foreign policy is better decided by men? What about womens issues, should we have those decided by men as well? No I don't like where this country has ended up but I guess thats what we get for letting women vote. Quite simply hypocrite men are the only stabilizing force in the us. If you think women would be more stable you really are retarded. yes foreign policy is better decided by men and so are women's issues.

Now, in no way take this as endorsement for the Hillary campaign. I am simply making the point that men have completely fucked this country. Men have been ruining this country since they created it. Kinda like when they play with their little blocks as kids. Build something only to destroy it.
Ever notice that when we started letting women and minorities vote that was when everything started to go to shit. Everything was fine before. So how were men ruining the country before 1950? They were'nt things were progressing smoothly. It is gay liberal policy from morons like you that completely fucked the country.
And just so everyone knows, Hillary is now in menopause - so I don't think any of us need worry about her reproductive organs or the hormones they produce. They are dead. Let the ovaries go people.

And no offense Shannon Rose, but really, how old are you? Sounds like a comment from either a young girl who has yet to find herself or a woman who never did.
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