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Old 07-19-2007, 12:51 AM
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I agree that teaching a child to respect his/her body and to tell when someone doesn't, is a necessary lesson...Should be taught at home.....However, it doesn't always happen. Parents either don't take the time or understand how to approach the subject. In that case, there should be an orientation for parents when enrolling kindergarteners. " Here's the curriculum. We will mail home a notice with the date it will be covered in class." That way parents are warned, either don't have the child in class that day, or be prepared for whatever questions a child may bring home. It would also give a reminder to parents to talk to kids before they hear about it in school.
Why not just teach the parents and make them do there job, part of the problem we have to day every body does there job for them so they don't have to and they get lazier every generation.
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I agree that teaching a child to respect his/her body and to tell when someone doesn't, is a necessary lesson...Should be taught at home.....However, it doesn't always happen. Parents either don't take the time or understand how to approach the subject. In that case, there should be an orientation for parents when enrolling kindergarteners. " Here's the curriculum. We will mail home a notice with the date it will be covered in class." That way parents are warned, either don't have the child in class that day, or be prepared for whatever questions a child may bring home. It would also give a reminder to parents to talk to kids before they hear about it in school.
I guess I could live with the letter idea. At the same time, and this is my opinion, 5 is a little too young. There are some things that don't need to be increasingly present in a young child's mind. They still like trucks and dolls. Do they really need to think about this type of stuff? Now I'm all for personal respect. Just not sex-ed.
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Sam, yes it is sad that molesters are usually family, but sex ed at that age should be done at home.

Yea but if daddy is molesting his 6 year old I think a program like the one which was discussed is appropriate. A simple message about inappropriate touching and to tell someone...why is that so frightening to you.
Yes ideally it should be taught at home , but if the parents are the molesters which is the majority of pedophilia cases we are failing children by keeping it a dirty secret.

How dare our society address this problem and interfere!

I just cannot figure out conservative thinking. They will spend hours talking about Nambla which has been essentially shut down . Yet over 92% of pedophilia is committed by a family member. The schools want to tell kids how to tell a trusted adult if someone touches them inappropriately and you guys are alarmed. Really you make absolutely no sense whatsover.

I am not even sure I would support Barack for president but good for him for having the decency to care about the hundreds of thousands of small children molested by the very people who should protect them.

I guess little 6 year old Caitlin should just keep her mouth shut if daddy comes into her bedromm late and night and fondles her. Those sickening little details might upset the conservatives family values.

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Old 07-19-2007, 01:03 AM
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I guess I could live with the letter idea. At the same time, and this is my opinion, 5 is a little too young. There are some things that don't need to be increasingly present in a young child's mind. They still like trucks and dolls. Do they really need to think about this type of stuff? Now I'm all for personal respect. Just not sex-ed.
I think the only way this topic could ever be construed as "sex-ed" is because it involves actually talking about one's body. This discussion should, in no way, be instructional like a "how to" manual.
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I think the only way this topic could ever be construed as "sex-ed" is because it involves actually talking about one's body. This discussion should, in no way, be instructional like a "how to" manual.
Ok, I'm ok with that. I was told from a very young age to tell my parents if anyone ever touched my privates. If that's what they want to teach that's understandable.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:10 AM
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Ok, I'm ok with that. I was told from a very young age to tell my parents if anyone ever touched my privates. If that's what they want to teach that's understandable.
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Welcome back Politicon-the conservative voice of reason!
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Ok, I'm ok with that. I was told from a very young age to tell my parents if anyone ever touched my privates. If that's what they want to teach that's understandable.
That's absolutely the only form of "sex education" I could see condoning before, say maybe a general biology approach around maybe 5th grade (and while that may seem young to many folks, girls can start experiencing menstral cycle around then).
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That's absolutely the only form of "sex education" I could see condoning before, say maybe a general biology approach around maybe 5th grade (and while that may seem young to many folks, girls can start experiencing menstral cycle around then).
I had sex education in 4th grade so I agree with you about the timeframe.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:26 AM
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I think it all comes down to age appropriate.. the education obama promoted informed children to tell a trusted adult if someone violates them Most often this begins at a very early age. Would all of you really oppose this information being given to 5-6 year olds?

I think the paste in the first post has everyone believing Obama was promoting something beyond that-maybe just more partisan games.

Would you rather the hundreds of thousands of children molested by their parents keep their mouths shut?
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