I think the kids here are far more creative and have learned a great deal from myspace. Now if the principal would catch on and also learn instead of being such a loser.

http://techdirt.com/articles/20070406/132716.shtml

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Sounds like libel and defamation of character. As far as the HS students not having much money, their parents may well be responsible for the damages - just like in other cases where minors have to pay damages.

Lets face it, if the principal is hated by the students he should not be principal. There may be a small subset of kids but the kids would quickly be silenced by the others. The principal sounds like a loser who needs counseling.

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03/04/07 "Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, US essayist & poet (1803 - 1882)

02/25/07 "There is no nonsense so errant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action." ~ Bertrand Russell, British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)

Some students are always going to hate the principal. You, and rightly so, complain about public education in this country and now you want to run it via a popularity contest. Do you really think that is the way to go?

Irregardless of whether the students hated the principal, or whether or not the principal is a "loser", the students still engaged in libel and defamation of character. Or do we insert a new standard in those laws such as the "he deserved it" defense?

As far as the kids quickly being silenced by others over this . . . you really don't understand HS kids do you?

I guess I don't. I thought my HS teachers and coaches were fantastic. And so did my circle of friends. There were perhaps some slackers that smoked behind the walls who would never make it anywhere but pump gas or become welfare people. They didn't have any desires and so I doubt they would be the kids making fake myspace profiles.

My kids loved their teachers and coaches too. And I liked most of them even. (As you can probably tell I took an active role in supporting my kids through school and attended just about everything so I got to know quite a few of the teachers very well from preschool through the start of college.)

A good principal would fix what he's doing wrong instead of wimping out and starting legal action like a pansey. He'll be out the door very soon. The super, teachers, parents, and everybody else will see to it.

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02/25/07 "There is no nonsense so errant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action." ~ Bertrand Russell, British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)

You are out of touch I think. ALL kids are putting up myspace pages and what clique they are in hardly matters. Just because some kids don't like the principal is a stupid reason to get rid of him. Think about the message it sends. Don't worry about doing what is right . . . just make sure you do whatever it takes to make people happy so you can keep that high income. The same thing can be said for teachers as well. Make sure you make the kids like you, expecially the ones with influential parents, because your job depends on it.

Lets see here. A coach doesn't play a kid because he is just flat out not good enough. That kid - or parent - doesn't like the coach so he/she should have to change their ways. ie play your kid. Same principle here.

Something like what happened in your initial post happened here with one of our basketball coaches - only it was a parent who made the fake profile. When I was asked my advice I said boot the kid off the team. He didn't do it, but I know I would have done it. BTW, that coach is a good coach and a good person, but there was still a bunch of crap said about him on the myspace profile which was bullshit. The only thing that coach did 'wrong' was to not play a kid that wasn't worth a shit on the court.

I have only recently discovered how popular myspace is. Maybe someday I'll go back and make a page for myself.


I've had coach and captain hats on before and I have quite a bit of first hand knowledge of the rabid hatred that goes into it. People may disagree, they may go elsewhere, they may never speak to you again, but I've been lucky in that most people have liked me. I can't say that about other captains and coaches liking me. I know some would like to see my head on a pole with me still living. Because like here in life I'm harshly fair and I have called bullshit quite a number of times to get my way. The people I've represented and have gotten to play, for the most part, respect me. Or if they didn't respect me they accepted me with a shrug as if I get too carried away or I'm partly crazy. Perhaps because I was almost always successful, passionately in to it, and attempted to treat people fairly I was successful. So your blanket statement implying they have to dislike you to be successful is in my opinion absolutely 100% wrong. You want them to like you so they'll also be passionate and try even harder. Passion is the only thing that will get them out at all times of the day or night for practice. To get them to watch videos and read on their own. You can't get them there with anything else.


Maybe you are in an area where nobody is passionate about what they do. Where the kids begrudgingly do the work but complain bitterly. Perhaps they are forced to write 1000s of times “I will not...” or take similar beatings. If that's the case you are doing something very wrong and you need a new approach. This principal needs a new approach. He's clearly losing it.

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02/25/07 "There is no nonsense so errant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action." ~ Bertrand Russell, British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)

I absolutely know what I am talking about. There are many who don't like a coach simply because the kid doesn't play -and it may well happen more in an area where they are VERY passionate about what they do. A couple of my former players are playing in the Major Leagues right now and I have one a state championship as well as had a team nationally ranked. I won't tell you what team or area but there are a couple on the forum who know. I have won two state titles as a player, one as a coach, and played in three NCAA Tournaments. I know what I am doing and I know that there are parents who do not like the coach just because of playing time.

I have had to deal with only two parents personally about this issue - and I told them it was a non-issue. I won't discuss playing time with any parent. Saying that, I know that there are people who haven't liked me it is just that I didn't care one bit whether they did or not. As long as I win I stay . . . simple as that. One of those parents actually complained about their kid not playing on one of my teams that went 39-3 and we played in the final four. The parent was clueless.

Anyone who says that reading and watching videos is the way to coach is obviously working with little leagues or their equivelant. Don't claim your little league experience as anythiing special. Anyone can coach little league. I am in a different league altogether. Quite a bit different when dealing with parents who think their kid is good enough to get a college scholarship and the only reason he isn't is because you aren't playing him.

When did I say they had to dislike you? You did claim I said that. I couldn't find it. Don't try to pass yourself as an expert in this when you obviously know that you are not . . . unless you think rec ball is expertise.

PS - I think there is a problem with people over 30 creating a myspace page . . . but do whatever you want.

It's all politics at the end of the end of the day. Just another smeer campaign...society has allowed it.

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What gets them out is the desire to be better than the others. My kids practice year around in order to make the team or be a starter. They do so because they know the other guy is doing the same thing and they will be left behind. You don't have to make anyone like you . . . unless you are dealing with little kids. Respect goes a lot further with serious athletes than being their pal, or whatever you think makes them like you.