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Old 06-05-2007, 04:34 PM
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I suspect what you are smelling is your own breath which reeks of bullshit. Anyway, who'd want to corner you at all?
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:48 PM
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How much is enough for a teacher? How much do teachers make now? What would it take to attract the 'best" teachers?
I dunno, but if you want good teachers, you're going to have to pay them enough to stay out of the private sector.
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I dunno, but if you want good teachers, you're going to have to pay them enough to stay out of the private sector.
Want the pay?? Then receive the highest in education.

What I mean is that perhaps we should base teacher salary completely on the level of education that they receive, as they do in most other countries.

We require nurses, doctors, lawyers, and the like to attend school for an inordinate amount of years, why not teachers?? And, too me, teachers are just as, if not more, important.
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Old 06-06-2007, 07:21 AM
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A teacher with a Masters degree and tenure teaching public school only recieves $5000 a year more for that extra education. It doesn't seem fair to me.
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Old 06-06-2007, 07:59 AM
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Want the pay?? Then receive the highest in education.

What I mean is that perhaps we should base teacher salary completely on the level of education that they receive, as they do in most other countries.

We require nurses, doctors, lawyers, and the like to attend school for an inordinate amount of years, why not teachers?? And, too me, teachers are just as, if not more, important.
We already pay teachers more than they would earn if they worked in the private sector. Based on the hours worked an inexperienced teacher with a bachelor’s degree where I live earns more than someone with a bachelor’s degree earns when they first enter the private sector work force.

An inexperienced teacher with a bachelor’s degree here earns something like $32,000 a year when working for the public school system. As an inexperienced teacher with a bachelor’s degree in one subject (biology) and 40 credit hours worth of courses towards another bachelor’s degree (history), the most I was ever offered as a private school teacher is $19,000.
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A teacher with a Masters degree and tenure teaching public school only recieves $5000 a year more for that extra education. It doesn't seem fair to me.
What does someone with a master’s degree and zero job security (tenure) earn when working in the private sector?
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:02 AM
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If I went to work for a private company and never increased my knowledge or never moved up to more responsible positions my income would only rise based on cost of living raises if any. Why should a high school English teacher, for example, make substantially more money for teaching the same subject matter in the same manner for 40 years?

As far as not being paid enough, teachers know how much money they will make when they are hired. They are not promised one thing and paid another. They also know, in advance, that unless they become administrators or teach higher level courses they will not receive large increases in pay. A position is worth whatever it is worth, regardless of the amount of time the employee has in it. Want more money, improve yourself. Why is teaching in this regard any different than being a broom sweeper or data entry clerk?
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:17 AM
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They also know, in advance, that unless they become administrators or teach higher level courses they will not receive large increases in pay.
Unless their union extorts a pay raise from the school board by threatening to strike. Teachers here recently got something like a 6% pay hike. There are not many private sector employees that get raises like this.
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