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06-04-2006, 08:21 PM
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How about we return to being good parents and teaching kids that certain things are bad for them.
It is the school's job to educate, it is not to be parents. If you are in high school and you haven't figured out the idea of eating healthy, it is on you.
It isn't drinking one soda during lunch that makes kids fat. It is when they go home and drink a two liter bottle of soda while munching on a huge bag of cheetos.
Again, it goes back to the parents.
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06-04-2006, 09:35 PM
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Its simple to say that everyone agrees that sodas are unhealthy and should not be aloud in schools at any point. My school sells a variety of milk, regular, chochloate, and strawberry which i both find delicious. The point is there are other things to drink that would be healthier for you. I lost some weight but I have a soda here and there but the point is I have admitted soda is wrong and i'm conquering it one step at a time.
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10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by painintheear
(I'm 15.)
Look, not everyone is fat. I, for one, am a tad past the skinny side of the weight spectrum... sodas don't hurt me. If I want to have a completely legal soda with my lunch it should be completely okay. I am intelligent enough to not drink them to where they are killing me; on the average day no more than 1 (if any), on occasion ill have a few, but thats mostly at parties or a weekend, etc.
I'm not strong by any means, but I'm in well enough shape... I walk nearly everday. So, are you saying its wrong for me to drink it at school too? Surely not, what we need to, but are afraid to do due to political correctness is to make it where only the kids at risk (over-weight/obese/diabetic) could not have it. This system will, of course, not ever happen. So maybe a card system that parents sign for? Probably not as that would cost extra to adapt machines or have people to vend them.
Another important point, is why just sodas. Greasy, cheesy pizza (a lunch i frequent myself) is common as well as those famous french fries and hamburgers you always hear about on the McDonald's is killing us rants have been in schools alot longer (i believe) and they seem to go unmentioned in the schools. I suspect this verifies the earlier accusation of parts of this being a money hungry game. (Teachers probably need all the money they can get, though, anyhow :~) )
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I agree that students should be allowed to have carbonated drinks in school. Our country is build on freedom. Why take it away now? My daughter is a dancer and has not had a soda in about two years even when they sold soda in school. If she can choose not to drink it, so can others. However, I do think that students should be informed about the health risks that these drinks are associated with. I agree also with your point about other school foods. If students are allowed all of these other unhealthy foods then why not soda too? On this subject, students should have more choices of healthy food in their cafeteria but they should not get rid of the freedom to be unhealthy.
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11-13-2007, 04:50 PM
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We should keep soda machines in school, as well as pizza. Those parents who want to regulate children's lunches, are a bunch of overprotective nutcases. In fact, there have been protests set up by parents, to change the actors for Santa Claus from being fat to being skinny, because they think that Santa is setting a bad example child nutrition.
Regulating food for fat children is like taking away a drug addict's heroin, they'll probably start suffering from chocolate withdrawal symptoms.
In class a few weeks ago, I recieved a brochure about how the school lunch has changed-
No carbonated beverages will be available from food services or venidng machines.
Beverages are limited to 12-ounce portions except milk and water.
Skim milk is available at every school in the district. This includes chocolate and strawberry flavored skim milk.
Fresh fruits and vegetables are offered daily.
Vegetables are steamed without added butter.
All food items - including breaded and potato items - are baked, not fried.
New healthy a la carte options are offered at elementary and secondary schools.
Vegetarian options are available including veggie burger, pizza Hot Pocket, yogurt fruit plate, and Italian dunkers.
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Is this really what you want to do to our children?
When I go to lunch, I order up a nice, sugary lemonade drink, a bag of goldfish and some ice cream and I need that "rush", and I may have some THC   to stay focused just like you adults need caffeine.
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11-13-2007, 05:36 PM
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I am really starting to realize my age. I went to public school, my two children went to public school. Before school, we ate breakfast, at home. For lunch we ate in the school cafeteria. We had a choice, what ever was on the school menu, or a sack lunch, from home. Either with milk, or water.
There were no vending machines, no breakfast was served at school (free or otherwise), no free lunches, no carbonated drinks. Why do children, in school for 6 to 7 hours need snacks and sodas, on top of their free breakfast, and free lunch? It sure isn't to help them learn.
For god sake, stop pampering these kids, and require that they, not only attend class, but the learn, as well.
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11-16-2007, 09:37 PM
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I think the School Board can vote on this, and let this not be a fucking State or Federal Issue.
If a school decides too many tank asses walking around drinking Mountain Dew and wish to curb down on it, fine. For the love of Liberty, do not give the Federal or State governments a single inch in dictating things like these, cause you open the door to more serious intrusions.
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11-16-2007, 11:15 PM
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jimmyjude,
Your posts make sense,except your connection of soda machines with teacher unions.
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11-17-2007, 08:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teak
I am really starting to realize my age. I went to public school, my two children went to public school. Before school, we ate breakfast, at home. For lunch we ate in the school cafeteria. We had a choice, what ever was on the school menu, or a sack lunch, from home. Either with milk, or water.
There were no vending machines, no breakfast was served at school (free or otherwise), no free lunches, no carbonated drinks. Why do children, in school for 6 to 7 hours need snacks and sodas, on top of their free breakfast, and free lunch? It sure isn't to help them learn.
For god sake, stop pampering these kids, and require that they, not only attend class, but the learn, as well.
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Same here. I've never seen a vending machine in school when i was growing up. We went to school to learn. Reading , math, science,History, PE.
School however is not the root of the problem. It's their lifestyle at home set by the parents. At a young age they are set in front of a TV "Idiot Box" and use that as a baby sitter. then as they get older Video games are added then to have a computer added to their bedroom. No daily exercise is involved in their routine.
It's the parents responsibility. Not the schools, not the governments, not anyone else's.
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11-17-2007, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Petey
Same here. I've never seen a vending machine in school when i was growing up. We went to school to learn. Reading , math, science,History, PE.
School however is not the root of the problem. It's their lifestyle at home set by the parents. At a young age they are set in front of a TV "Idiot Box" and use that as a baby sitter. then as they get older Video games are added then to have a computer added to their bedroom. No daily exercise is involved in their routine.
It's the parents responsibility. Not the schools, not the governments, not anyone else's.
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Excellent post, true on all points.
But, alot of parents simply don't care anymore, all all. It's quite pathetic.
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11-17-2007, 08:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
Excellent post, true on all points.
But, alot of parents simply don't care anymore, all all. It's quite pathetic.
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you want to hear something funny?
Everyday when i'm driving through town i see street signs all over reading things like "Drive 25 keep children alive" and "Kids present, drive slow"
There are no children , It's like a ghost town because they are all inside in front of a tv, video game, or computer. Parents no longer congregate with each other outside. instead they are in their houses peeking through the windows to make sure that the landscapers do a well enough job as to make their property look better than their neighbors.....and now that we are going into the holliday season they will all be competing with the stupid decorations outside.
Bunch of sick freaks! It's like the twilight zone.
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