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04-15-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wvpeach
You don't throw out the constitution of the US because it has parts in it you don't like, nor do you throw out public schools because some are failing.
Allowing people to make the choice of school vouchers will eliminate the need to reform the schools back to places that teach children instead of baby sitting rough necks and heathens who don't want to learn.
The public school system served this nation well for decades and it still will, we just have to put some effort into it again.
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Not a bad argument against student vouchers, but the whole problem most people have with the public school system is:
1. The Teachers Union
2. No competition
3. The Teachers Union
4. High Over head
5. No Conservatives allowed, i.e. How many Conservative teachers,professor's have you ever heard of, Liberals have a monopoly in the teaching field.
6. The Teachers Union.
I was listening to a local Rad io station last year I still remember this because they were talking about a career in the Local School district, they were bragging that over 50% of the job's are un-teaching related.
I mother fucking thought at the time it should of been like 80% of the job's should of been teaching related.
To much over head in the school district's too many people getting paid just to manufacture there own jobs.
Also a good argument for vouchers is I personally. I am a product of the public school district's, I can not spell worth a damn, I can not write worth a shit, School was useless to me, everything I learned I had to re-learn outside of school and I graduated from High School.
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04-15-2008, 12:45 PM
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Also a good argument for vouchers is I personally. I am a product of the public school district's, I can not spell worth a damn, I can not write worth a shit, School was useless to me, everything I learned I had to re-learn outside of school and I graduated from High School.
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Typical righty. Your failure to learn was someone else's fault.
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04-15-2008, 12:47 PM
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Typical righty. Your failure to learn was someone else's fault.
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And who is it supposed to be mine at 6 years old?
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04-15-2008, 12:51 PM
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Typical, attack the messenger instead of the message, They graduated me, they gave me a diploma just to get rid of me.
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04-15-2008, 12:53 PM
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Vouchers appeal to simp righties for two reasons:
1. They love simplistic solutions - easier than thinking.
2. They get to put one of their scapegoats - teachers' unions - on display.
Vouchers are useless for anyone not rich. Private school tuition is over $10,000 normally. Okay, you can subsidize religion, but I think religion should have to get by without gov't support.
There is no real evidence that private schools teach any better. Actually, qualification standards to teach are normally lower. They can show better scores, because they can pick and choose and expel students, and the students and parents they have are normally more motivated.
Lastly, simple minds fail to recognize that if you move students around, you will move the same teachers you don't like now to teach them. In fact, as private schools generally pay less, you will likely have the poorest of teachers moving to fill the demand there for more teachers.
So, sorry rightards, y'all need to leave thinking to those who can handle it. You just keep shepherding your scapegoats.
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04-15-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wyatt earp
Typical, attack the messenger instead of the message, They graduated me, they gave me a diploma just to get rid of me.
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Wah!
Should have gotten off your lazy ass and studied. Never get anywhere going through life blaming others for your inadequacies.
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04-15-2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
 NACCP: National Association of Child Care Professionals.
Now if I were racist, I would say NAACP but they are almost racist themselves by calling themselves "colored" instead of African American.
But, honestly, the American Civil Liberties Union: is there to cover everyone's butts, if they deserve it or NOT.
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I apologize for the misread and the question.
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04-15-2008, 02:23 PM
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I apologize for the misread and the question.
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Kudos on fessing up. Some here wouldn't have the spine to do it.
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04-15-2008, 02:27 PM
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Kudos on fessing up. Some here wouldn't have the spine to do it.
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I'll be waiting. 
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04-15-2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Suburbanite
its selfish, thats why. selfish to expect a quality education for our tax dollars? I don't think so people who are interested in school vouchers do NOT represent the majority of our population, who is very reliant on the public school system. reliant on them to what, make students stupider this only takes money away from poor people and public schools and gives GOVERNMENT TAXES to religious institutions and private schools none of which is required to teach anything. thats bs there are also a lot of Americans who live far away from schools, and even further from private schools.
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so what its not our fault they choose to live in bumfuck
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