Have you found that curriculum yet to show us what you are talking about?

Or are you just making things up? That's not a very effective way to convince people...by lying.

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Big difference...you're citing a case where the parents never even went to a professional. I'm talking about being FORCED to pay for Public School, then being told the only way it will really work well is if the parents do some of the job for the teachers. Somehow the teachers DON'T have time to teach like they should, but they've got time to tinker in areas that have nothing to do with basic academic knowledge.

If you go to a doctor and you get instructions to do some of the treatments yourself, you'll be given specific instruction, not some open-ended "the more you get involved" crap. If you DO get a quack like that, you can refuse to pay and/or take your business elsewhere.

Try refusing to pay a teacher...it isn't even an OPTION, even if you do take your business elsewhere. My children have never set foot in a Public Edufactory, yet I pay just as much as the next guy, no tax breaks, no refunds, no compensation.

I get that the story you cited makes you sick of ignorant, inbred religidiots...they make me want to vomit, too...but comparing that to what I said about schools is like comparing apples and orangutans.

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NCLB and School Sports...
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NCLB and School Sports... NCLB requires absolute level performance: All schools have 12 years (from 2002 to 2014) to reach a certain proficiency level - academic growth is not the issue, just proficiency level. According to NCLB, students in all U.S. schools must be proficient by year 12. This is a daunting and, quite possibly, an impossible task.

Let's see how this concept "might" be applied to school sports teams - using basketball as an example:

1. All basketball teams must make the playoffs, and all teams must win the championship. Teams that do not win the championship will be placed on probation until they are able to become champions. Coaches will be held accountable for failing teams.

2. All student players will be expected to have equal basketball ability and skills at the same time and in the same grade. No exceptions will be made for "short" basketball players, a student's interest in playing the game, genetic abilities or physical disabilities.

3. All students will play basketball at a PROFICIENT LEVEL.

4. it will be necessary for players with talent to practice and work out on their own without an instructor or coach. Their coaches will need to focus all or their time and instructional prowess on those players with no interest in the sport, have little or no ability, or have parents who never did well in basketball and, therefore, don't provide support at home.

5. Basketball will be a competitive sport throughout all school grades, but scores will only be kept in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, and 11th grade.

6. This will develop an atmosphere where losing is not acceptable. All teams will always have a winning season.

7. Or else...

You may never need a cop or a librarian or a fireman. Are you suggesting that your taxes not pay for them? Or how about the 50% + roads in your county that you will never, ever use. Do you expect a tax cut because you don't have to pay for them? Don't be ridiculous. We all benefit from an educated citizenry...unless, there are those who would PREFER an uneducated citizenry.

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"I consider Homo anal sex to be a religion." - Wow, AWE poster.

Again, not comparable. If I could pay to use only private roads, then you could compare the two. If I could pay to have my own fire department, then you could compare the two.

I CAN pay for my children's education OUTSIDE the school system without using one iota of Public Resources to do so. I shouldn't have to pay for a system that is NOT the only option.

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Totally comparible...you CAN pay to use private roads...toll roads. You can have your own fire brigade for your own house.

But you are paying for an educated populace...it's not all about YOU, you know.

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"I consider Homo anal sex to be a religion." - Wow, AWE poster.

Maybe you made a typo?
It is all about MY children.
I do not work to support YOUR children.
I do what is best for MY children, that includes a "choice" for education.
If YOU can not support your children, then you have no business having children. You need to work an extra job like picking lettuce or digging a ditch (You know, those jobs the illegals have now), instead of watching "The Sopranos" in the evening.

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Really? You know of a way around those pesky laws that forbid me from carving my own roads through other people's property? Because there are NO toll roads between my house and my job. There are NO toll roads within 50 miles of my home, and almost all of my driving is within that radius. I can NOT replace Public Roads with toll roads, no matter how much it seemed like a good argument to you.

Then, when I want my own fire department, I run into the same problems: those pesky laws that grant certain special priveleges to firemen that I can't get. I'll get ticketed if my fire department speeds or uses the wrong color of flashing lights; sirens are a no-no; connecting to public hydrants will get me fined, at the least; and with all the seat-belt laws, I'd get in deep crap if I let my firemen dangle off the back of my firetruck(s).

But nice try.

Well, no, not really...you didn't put much thought at all into it.

Absolutely. And study after study, year after year, shows that Public Schools have gone downhill since the Federal Government got involved. They are simply not capable of efficiently meeting the individual needs of every child in America (hell, they can't even do it inefficiently!)

So, I agree with you there - we would all benefit from an educated citizenry. So, let's get education out of the hands of the Federal Government, where it's steadily declining, and give it back to the ones who can actually address each student's needs and areas of excellence on a case-by-case basis: the community.

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Ah...OTHER people's property. Sorry, you have to buy up and use your own property.
Too bad for you. Guess you have to pay your taxes.
Too bad for you...but you are not the one that the world revolves around.

Create your own fire dept. Pay for it too.

You forget that if you have your own fire dept., you don't have to rush to other people's homes. Just your own...and you will already be there.

Fine...get the feds out of it. I agree.

Again, I agree. Get the Feds out of it.

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