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12-03-2007, 12:27 PM
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I graduated HS in 1954, and never saw a soda machine, in any Calif. school I attended. The closest thing to junk food, that I remember, was mac and cheese, on fridays.
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My God Teak, either you are a genius or an old old fart  I never even knew they had high schools in 1954!!
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12-03-2007, 12:33 PM
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I graduated from high school in 1963. We had two vending machines in one of the hall ways. One sold cups of soda for 5 cents. The other sold milk, orange juice and apple juice for a dime. Half the time the cup would come out but no drink or the drink would come out but no cup or the drink would come out and splash over everything and then the cup would fall. The fruit juices were in cardboard boxes and you always got what you wanted. It was an economic plus to get the fruit juice and better for you as well.
My son and my daughter went to Catholic School in the 80's. There were more vending machines for Coke and Pepsi products then there were students. I don't recall seeing any fruit juice machines.
However, once again this should be a mandate by the local school district, not a federal or even a statewide mandate.
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12-03-2007, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
My God Teak, either you are a genius or an old old fart  I never even knew they had high schools in 1954!!
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Well, I ain't no genius, I'd say I was born 10 or 11 years before you were, so yep I'm older, but I don't fart....much.
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12-03-2007, 03:29 PM
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What about parents talking to their kids and determining what and what not is appropriate for their children to drink and eat.
Vending machines are passive,they do not force people to use them.
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12-03-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sotmfs
What about parents talking to their kids and determining what and what not is appropriate for their children to drink and eat.
Vending machines are passive,they do not force people to use them.
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It's just like drugs, peer pressure.
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12-03-2007, 04:25 PM
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It's just like drugs, peer pressure.
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Peer pressure is certainly a factor in the lives of children as well as adults.
Children need to be protected and taught by adults and told the truth as they mature and age.
Generally a child with positive self-esteem and a good relationship with parents and other adults is less likely to sucumb to peer pressure.In fact they may be a positive "peer" pressure for others their age.
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12-03-2007, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sotmfs
Peer pressure is certainly a factor in the lives of children as well as adults.
Children need to be protected and taught by adults and told the truth as they mature and age.
Generally a child with positive self-esteem and a good relationship with parents and other adults is less likely to sucumb to peer pressure.In fact they may be a positive "peer" pressure for others their age.
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I agree. 
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12-04-2007, 06:01 PM
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Well, back in the 1950s to the Late 1990s, ice cream trucks would drive around and the children would be released from the misery of the Summer heat and spend their allowances on flavory frozen treats.
But, now all these so-called "scientific studies" claim that almost all the ingriedients in candy may cause cancer, back in the day, we would get joy from that rush of sugar, and I would eat loads upon loads of candy and you know I got no cancer.
But now, my mom goes to Whole Foods Market, and I have to eat organic candy!!!
Damn Democrats.
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12-08-2007, 08:47 AM
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LOL.
I agree. I sub teach (well, not so much anymore...too busy making piles of money now...but I sure miss it) and I know of schools that have donut shops set up in the morning so kids can use their "free" breakfast chits and get a "healthy" breakfast like donuts and a can of coke (could be worse, I guess....could be a cuppa coffee and a Camel...).
When you ask them (schools) about this they say "well, it's all they'll eat!"
I have a theory about that, one I tested (over the protests of the lovely Mrs. Tokie) on my own kids who "wouldn't eat!" pretty average American fare as little kids.
I let them go ahead and "not eat!" This works on dogs and cats--indoor ones, anyway--too! Or livestock.
After missing one or two meals of stuff they "won't eat!" they suddenly have a sort of tectonic shift in their thinking on what they will and will not eat.
But the schools are not interested in feeding kids because, as they bleat: they have to have a full stomach before they will be able to worry about readin' writin' and 'rithmatic!
Pay attention: the schools are PAID (where I live, $3.20/per meal) for each meal they serve. When they serve a donut that costs them $.30 and a can of Coke that costs them $.40, that provides...let's call it "incentive" to steer kids toward that fare, and away from the plate of scrambled eggs (those'll kill ya!) fruit, cereal, milk and juice (which will prolly cost btwn $2.50-$4.00).
Do the math.
Then, Libbies, run around in circles screaming at me because I just told the truth.
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12-08-2007, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by locutusofborg277
Well, back in the 1950s to the Late 1990s, ice cream trucks would drive around and the children would be released from the misery of the Summer heat and spend their allowances on flavory frozen treats.
But, now all these so-called "scientific studies" claim that almost all the ingriedients in candy may cause cancer, back in the day, we would get joy from that rush of sugar, and I would eat loads upon loads of candy and you know I got no cancer.
But now, my mom goes to Whole Foods Market, and I have to eat organic candy!!!
Damn Democrats.
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Organic candy.
You may not have cancer, but "organic candy" sure sounds like a disease of some sort.
You should have that checked out.
Tokie
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