Thompson criticizes no child left behind

satv365 · #21 (**permalink**) 09-24-2007, 10:33 PM

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There was ZERO federal curriculum or regulation of public schools UNTIL Bush imposed it with NCLB

Yeah, and quit acting like it wasnt bad before... Get real.

theleftisright · #22 (**permalink**) 09-24-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by satv365

Yeah, and quit acting like it wasnt bad before... Get real.

If you read my post, youj will see I was not claiming that there werent probelems before, and I even laid out the reasons for the problems.

The answer is NOT, to let the the drag schools down to the lowest common denominator in their communities. Kids should have a better future then their parants, not a mirror relection of their values

Dom1 · #23 (**permalink**) 09-25-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689

I have always wondered if that wasn't deliberate.

You know Bush violates the conservative ideals on one hand but then repairs it by not funding it?

Genius?

Bush increased educational funding, just like every president in the past fifty years have.

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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689

The fact is that, in large part they weren't educating the kids prior to NCLB Act.

SAT scores have been falling since the 60's I believe.

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Originally Posted by fenianforever1689

Can you say Ted Kennedy and Rep. Miller of California?

The people who make this partisan keep forgetting Kennedy's part in this. I think it was his idea.

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Originally Posted by crowonapost

That's easy. The teachers are forced by the No child's behind left to spend the entire year teaching their kids how to be punch monkeys. The kids can't develop how to think because they are basically spending the entire year practicing for the 'test'.

You are absolutely right.

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Originally Posted by wvpeach

I know ots of teachers and none of them like no child left behind they all say its just about numbers not educating the kids.

Most teachers don't like it because of accountability. Fact is, like fenian said, the kids weren't scoring very high or being educated before. Scores have been falling for at least the past thirty years and I think longer.

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Originally Posted by Oedipus Rex

At some point, society just has to leave the dumb ones behind.

They won't do it. But I agree. Europeans have different schools for those kids.

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Originally Posted by Oedipus Rex

Ever notice education took a crap dive when the Dept of Education was created during Carter's administration?

Before that. Try around the time of the "Great Society".

satv365 · #24 (**permalink**) 09-26-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theleftisright

If you read my post, youj will see I was not claiming that there werent probelems before, and I even laid out the reasons for the problems.

The answer is NOT, to let the the drag schools down to the lowest common denominator in their communities. Kids should have a better future then their parants, not a mirror relection of their values

Which could be solved with privatization. Just spend the current misapropriated funds on tuition for the poor. Simple enough. Standardized testing does no good. Federal Control does no good.

I propose privatizing, simple no?

Athene · #25 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 07:38 PM

The no child left behind act was under thought. What were they thinking? Schools are not doing well enough so lets cut their funding and make it worse, or better yet, let's blame the teachers for not forcing the students to care.