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10-08-2007, 12:33 AM
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Is school a waste of time
Students are not learning because there are too many distractions in a classroom. The average class period is forty-five minutes long. Most of this time is spent taking attendance, diciplining students, reviewing past lessons, and talking about useless things. Out of this time only five to ten minutes is used for teaching new concepts. How can we expect our students to learn if teachers are only teaching them thirty-five minutes out of an eight hour day?
I'm not saying this is the teachers fault. Every class has a wide range of students who are on different learning levels. Most classes are slowed down by those few students who are still on a much lower level. How could the government change this?
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10-08-2007, 12:43 AM
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Curriculum
The thing about the classes is that they teach things way earlier than the past generation did.
For example, in 4th grade our science curriculum taught us about the Laws of Gravity and Nuclear Physics. I don't need to know about how "every reaction has an equally opposite reaction" to live independently  !
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10-08-2007, 12:49 AM
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Learning at your own pace
Teachers should teach the students differently based on their learning level. Students should be able to learn at their own pace, without holding others back. There should be no classification based on age. Age is not associated with intelligence.
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10-08-2007, 12:56 AM
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A new world
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Originally Posted by locutusofborg277
The thing about the classes is that they teach things way earlier than the past generation did.
For example, in 4th grade our science curriculum taught us about the Laws of Gravity and Nuclear Physics. I don't need to know about how "every reaction has an equally opposite reaction" to live independently  !
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So what you're saying is that the point of school is just to learn how to live independantly and successfully. Those who are going into science feilds would need to know these things in order to succeed. It's not a question of whether or not the information is important. It's a question of are our students learning enough. This world has changed since we were kids. There has been a lot more that has been discovered. That is why our kids are being taught so much more than we were.
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10-08-2007, 01:05 AM
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School system
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Originally Posted by Starynight
Teachers should teach the students differently based on their learning level. Students should be able to learn at their own pace, without holding others back. There should be no classification based on age. Age is not associated with intelligence.
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I've thought about this before. I agree. Students should be able to progress at their own level starting strait from elementary school. There should be different levels of school that replace grades. Everyone would start out on the same level. There should be a certain amount of tests that you would have to pass in order to go on to the next level. There would be twelve different teachers for each level. Students would move on to their levels for core classes, but would have gym and other elective classes with those of their own age. Students would move through class rooms and buildings just like how it is today. The only thing that would change is their level of learning. Once you passes level twelve you would graduate.
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10-08-2007, 01:20 AM
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kids are different
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Originally Posted by Athene
I've thought about this before. I agree. Students should be able to progress at their own level starting strait from elementary school. There should be different levels of school that replace grades. Everyone would start out on the same level. There should be a certain amount of tests that you would have to pass in order to go on to the next level. There would be twelve different teachers for each level. Students would move on to their levels for core classes, but would have gym and other elective classes with those of their own age. Students would move through class rooms and buildings just like how it is today. The only thing that would change is their level of learning. Once you passes level twelve you would graduate.
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That sounds like a good idea. I understand what you mean because no matter how much we cram into our children's heads, they take it in differently than others. They excel based on how much they want to learn not by how much we want them to learn. One kid could have the capability to learn massive amounts of information, but be to lazy and not push themselves to learn as much as they could. I do have some doubts. How would this effect my child socially? What happens if they never pass up a level?
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10-08-2007, 09:07 AM
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Higher Education
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Originally Posted by Athene
So what you're saying is that the point of school is just to learn how to live independantly and successfully. Those who are going into science feilds would need to know these things in order to succeed. It's not a question of whether or not the information is important. It's a question of are our students learning enough. This world has changed since we were kids. There has been a lot more that has been discovered. That is why our kids are being taught so much more than we were.
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No, college and places of higher education are places for learning that sort of knowledge. If I want to become a molecular chemist or a nuclear engineer than I go to college. Children don't need to know about all the complicated topics. If those children want to learn more than what they're being taught than we have an easily accesible gifted program for the intellualist students to satisfy them.
When's the time when children in school are taught about Evolution Verses Creationism?
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10-08-2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by locutusofborg277
No, college and places of higher education are places for learning that sort of knowledge. If I want to become a molecular chemist or a nuclear engineer than I go to college. Children don't need to know about all the complicated topics. If those children want to learn more than what they're being taught than we have an easily accesible gifted program for the intellualist students to satisfy them.
When's the time when children in school are taught about Evolution Verses Creationism?
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If students don't need to know what they are being taught then why are they in school? Colleges need their students to know all the information being taught in the required schools before they go to college. The information that is taught up through highschool is so important in this day. Science has become a political issue and students need to know about it in order to vote on it without having to go to college. Everything students are taught in school is useful in life.
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10-08-2007, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by locutusofborg277
When's the time when children in school are taught about Evolution Verses Creationism?
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I think comparitives would be good - let the child select what they want to buy into.
Let's face it  BOTH are expensive business venue's
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10-09-2007, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Starynight
That sounds like a good idea. I understand what you mean because no matter how much we cram into our children's heads, they take it in differently than others. They excel based on how much they want to learn not by how much we want them to learn. One kid could have the capability to learn massive amounts of information, but be to lazy and not push themselves to learn as much as they could. I do have some doubts. How would this effect my child socially? What happens if they never pass up a level?
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Elective classes like gym, dance, art, etc. would put students into social situations in which students would learn how to work in groups and with other people. Students would have the same amount of time as they do now to pass the last level and graduate. This allows students to work for a deadline but still at their own pace.
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