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10-07-2007, 02:09 PM
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Ill choose to not beleive you. My personal beleif is that a large amount of the learning disabilitys that are diagnosed are overdiagnosed and mismedicated.
Ive actually read a couple books on this.
There grades fall. They are thrown in Special Education in High School. Then they are brought back to learning 4th and 5th grade math.
I fail to see how or why we allow teachers and schools to diagnos these in the first place either.
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10-07-2007, 02:15 PM
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My spouse and I are both conservative. Both our daughters belong to Duke TIP, John Hopkins, National Junior honor society, and the Principal's straight A list. Shall I go on about their after school activities? One is soccer, the other is in cheerleading, both are in theater and are active in church. Are they saints at home? No. But they are in public and that's what counts.
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I think, or I HOPE you know, I was not referring to you personally.
However, kids raised by right wing war mongering Xian bigoted homophobic misogynists who tell their daughters they destroyed paradise and should live with that guilt, and tell their sons that god gave them permission to rape their environment and dominate their female peers ?
(I could go on)
OB, if they don’t suffer from a behavioral disorder, it would be a miracle
And THAT is why so many do
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10-07-2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by theleftisright
I think, or I HOPE you know, I was not referring to you personally.
However, kids raised by right wing war mongering Xian bigoted homophobic misogynists who tell their daughters they destroyed paradise and should live with that guilt, and tell their sons that god gave them permission to rape their environment and dominate their female peers ?
(I could go on)
OB, if they don’t suffer from a behavioral disorder, it would be a miracle
And THAT is why so many do
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Nope, don't teach them any of that, but have taught them from a young age to respect their bodies. 
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10-08-2007, 12:13 AM
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Degrade
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Originally Posted by satv365
That is the dumbest shit ive ever heard.
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By degrading some of the kids in the class, the rest of the children can look down on them.
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02-17-2008, 11:47 AM
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Americans must know it all we feed our people junk food and end up with all these health problems then we give them a bunch of drugs to coat the problems. Then we mass produce the most inefficient mode of transportation with the knowlege of better ways. Then we seem to have convinced ourselves that we can make peace with war. Better yet education is not even close to the top of our priorities. I was a kid who teachers and docters clamed was A.D.D and decidid I needed ridlin. What they faild to realize was that I didnt like what I was being tought. Like American history for example only half the story was being told by our goverment printed text books. Like the extermination of the Native American poeple and suppression of the Africans that were brought here. Under the constitution that all men were created equal. Then all the fear mongering about the war on drugs when it was the big wiggs themselves who was bringing the drugs over here and dumping it into the poor communities. Meanwile I was being percribed drugs so I would not "act out" in class. The kids know that somthing is wrong with the way this country is being run but thay are just kids and feel thay have no control over what thay want to be when they grow up with substanderd education. That is why thay are rebeling thay are not being told the Truth.
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02-17-2008, 11:49 AM
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Proud to be an American
Americans must know it all we feed our people junk food and end up with all these health problems then we give them a bunch of drugs to coat the problems. Then we mass produce the most inefficient mode of transportation with the knowlege of better ways. Then we seem to have convinced ourselves that we can make peace with war. Better yet education is not even close to the top of our priorities. I was a kid who teachers and docters clamed was A.D.D and decidid I needed ridlin. What they faild to realize was that I didnt like what I was being tought. Like American history for example only half the story was being told by our goverment printed text books. Like the extermination of the Native American poeple and suppression of the Africans that were brought here. Under the constitution that all men were created equal. Then all the fear mongering about the war on drugs when it was the big wiggs themselves who was bringing the drugs over here and dumping it into the poor communities. Meanwile I was being percribed drugs so I would not "act out" in class. The kids know that somthing is wrong with the way this country is being run but thay are just kids and feel thay have no control over what thay want to be when they grow up with substanderd education. That is why thay are rebeling thay are not being told the Truth.
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02-17-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by locutusofborg277
By degrading some of the kids in the class, the rest of the children can look down on them.
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No, not true. A very small amount of children really need to be on ritalin, what have you for ADHD. The rest really need discpline, not medicine.
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02-17-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ajraff
Americans must know it all we feed our people junk food and end up with all these health problems then we give them a bunch of drugs to coat the problems. Then we mass produce the most inefficient mode of transportation with the knowlege of better ways. Then we seem to have convinced ourselves that we can make peace with war. Better yet education is not even close to the top of our priorities. I was a kid who teachers and docters clamed was A.D.D and decidid I needed ridlin. What they faild to realize was that I didnt like what I was being tought. Like American history for example only half the story was being told by our goverment printed text books. Like the extermination of the Native American poeple and suppression of the Africans that were brought here. Under the constitution that all men were created equal. Then all the fear mongering about the war on drugs when it was the big wiggs themselves who was bringing the drugs over here and dumping it into the poor communities. Meanwile I was being percribed drugs so I would not "act out" in class. The kids know that somthing is wrong with the way this country is being run but thay are just kids and feel thay have no control over what thay want to be when they grow up with substanderd education. That is why thay are rebeling thay are not being told the Truth.
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Welcome ajraff.....
When have we ever been told "the truth?" The job of society is to maintain agreed to controls on behaviour. As the level of agreement collapses society becomes more disfunctional.
The truth is not told, it is sought after, and partially found, perhaps -if one is willing to think, and listen with an open mind.
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02-17-2008, 12:16 PM
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I think that learning disabilitys are a result in the food that we eat.
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02-17-2008, 12:28 PM
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I think that learning disabilitys are a result in the food that we eat.
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That possibly could be true. But, I have known people from when I was in school that were ADHD and that was from 1973-1986, and we didn't have any where near the amount of junk food or soda back then.
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