9% of U.S. Kids Have ADHD

satv365 · #31 (**permalink**) 10-04-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by locutusofborg277

We should use the money from gambling to pay for schools, and maybe the excise taxes from liquor, cigarrettes or fatty foods. But we should nationalize the education system and subsidize even more.

Not realy. Nationalizing Education leads to a lower quality in Education. As is the case right now. Strictly controlled by Federal Government and hopelessly substandard Education because of that.

Leave it to privatization and State and Counties to manage there own local communitie's schools. As it should be.

locutusofborg277 · #32 (**permalink**) 10-05-2007, 09:20 AM

We should have a revised school system that works like the Japanese school system, which is very competitive among their students. We require that there must be 30-40 kids in each class, that way the teacher is too busy to help, so the students must fend for themselves and their academic status.

There will five classes of education in every grade:

1st: Special Education, for those with profoundly poor grades, now we keep this class and use it as an instrument of fear and humiliation to other students. These students are somewhat unlikely to find work, but can still do basic work such as packing boxes onto a truck.

2nd-Remedial Education, those who have poor grades, but continue to put effort into their work, again this class aims to use fear and humiliation as a method to keep as little students as possible in that class. They will uphold the basic labor backbone of the State.

3rd-average, the children show average intellect, however they have nothing to be proud of just as much as they have nothing to be ashamed of they will be those who uphold the balance of society.

4th-Intelluctual Average- these students have displayed outstanding intellect abilities within the classroom environment. They will be supervisors, scientists and others, this class as well as the 5th Level will be fundamental to the growth of society and a libertarian socialist government.

5th-Profoundly Gifted-these students will be the political leaders who will lead the ideal Marxist-Trotskysit socialist government and are dominant over their fellow students.

satv365 · #33 (**permalink**) 10-05-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by locutusofborg277

We should have a revised school system that works like the Japanese school system, which is very competitive among their students. We require that there must be 30-40 kids in each class, that way the teacher is too busy to help, so the students must fend for themselves and their academic status.

There will five classes of education in every grade:

1st: Special Education, for those with profoundly poor grades, now we keep this class and use it as an instrument of fear and humiliation to other students. These students are somewhat unlikely to find work, but can still do basic work such as packing boxes onto a truck.

2nd-Remedial Education, those who have poor grades, but continue to put effort into their work, again this class aims to use fear and humiliation as a method to keep as little students as possible in that class. They will uphold the basic labor backbone of the State.

3rd-average, the children show average intellect, however they have nothing to be proud of just as much as they have nothing to be ashamed of they will be those who uphold the balance of society.

4th-Intelluctual Average- these students have displayed outstanding intellect abilities within the classroom environment. They will be supervisors, scientists and others, this class as well as the 5th Level will be fundamental to the growth of society and a libertarian socialist government.

5th-Profoundly Gifted-these students will be the political leaders who will lead the ideal Marxist-Trotskysit socialist government and are dominant over their fellow students.

That is the dumbest shit ive ever heard.

theleftisright · #34 (**permalink**) 10-06-2007, 06:18 PM

This is one of those non political issues, that the right jumped on in an attempt to make it a wedge issue.

Trouble is, it has no legs.

Boys with ADHD are not "Acting like boys", they are either acting like boys with ADHD, or like boys with parents who think aggression is a positive attribute. (Generally familes with the heads of dead animals on the walls, and with fathers who think "You need to slap em around now and then", and with mothers who agree)

Either way, schools are obligated to address this, and they do...next ?

oceanbreeze · #35 (**permalink**) 10-06-2007, 07:47 PM

"Either way, schools are obligated to address this, and they do...next ?"

The schools should be obligated to make the parents responsible for their children instead of coming up with false excuses.

satv365 · #36 (**permalink**) 10-06-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by theleftisright

This is one of those non political issues, that the right jumped on in an attempt to make it a wedge issue.

Trouble is, it has no legs.

Boys with ADHD are not "Acting like boys", they are either acting like boys with ADHD, or like boys with parents who think aggression is a positive attribute. (Generally familes with the heads of dead animals on the walls, and with fathers who think "You need to slap em around now and then", and with mothers who agree)

Either way, schools are obligated to address this, and they do...next ?

Learning Disabilitys are horribly over diagnosed and medicated even. It needs to be addressed that there education suffers as a result of this.

Your generalizations of why they have adhd, are rather stupid as well.

theleftisright · #37 (**permalink**) 10-06-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by satv365

Learning Disabilitys are horribly over diagnosed and medicated even. It needs to be addressed that there education suffers as a result of this.

Your generalizations of why they have adhd, are rather stupid as well.

They are NOT generilazations...Trust me..or dont...but eithger way, they are not generalizations.

What you are missing, is that once ADHD is ruled out, you ofthen find "other" issues, and thus, a cause.

oceanbreeze · #38 (**permalink**) 10-06-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by theleftisright

They are NOT generilazations...Trust me..or dont...but eithger way, they are not generalizations.

What you are missing, is that once ADHD is ruled out, you ofthen find "other" issues, and thus, a cause.

Yes, parents not parenting their children and using any excuse for their and their child's uruly behavior.

theleftisright · #39 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

Yes, parents not parenting their children and using any excuse for their and their child's uruly behavior.

Sometimes the parenting the problem, not the solution.
Imagine if some of the right leaning posters in this forum have kids.
Do you have ANY doubt that they would be distracted, destructive, confused and angry ?

oceanbreeze · #40 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theleftisright

Sometimes the parenting the problem, not the solution.
Imagine if some of the right leaning posters in this forum have kids.
Do you have ANY doubt that they would be distracted, destructive, confused and angry ?

My spouse and I are both conservative. Both our daughters belong to Duke TIP, John Hopkins, National Junior honor society, and the Principal's straight A list. Shall I go on about their after school activities? One is soccer, the other is in cheerleading, both are in theater and are active in church. Are they saints at home? No. But they are in public and that's what counts.