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01-07-2007, 01:28 PM
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I agree that a raise based on inflation should be present for all the wage earners.
On the Jeep Liberty, it may be made in America, but it is owned by Dodge which is owned by Daimler Chrysler which is a German company. The percentage of the company which is American owned is under 20%.
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But it employees American workers... I thought you would give shit about owning an SUV. :}
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01-07-2007, 01:28 PM
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I agree with you. But again our difference is that you would damn that poor person to poverty. Whereas I would give them a raise in the minimum in the hopes that they would try to better their life. It's just a difference in philosophy.
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I don't consider it damning them to anything. I feel that for many of them they can do things to get themselves out of poverty or that they could have done something to not put them in the situation to begin with. Over the long haul raising the minimum wage does not bring them out of poverty as the prices will rise along with the raise in wages. They will essentially have basically the same purchasing power as before. Really, does seven dollars an hour bring you out of a bad situation?
You are becoming a teacher? That is great. I don't know how far away you live from this school, but I once interviewed with Rockhurst. Great school. The money would not be very good (being private), but you should put in an application there if you get a chance.
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01-07-2007, 01:33 PM
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I don't us this phrase very often but "MY GOD".... Dom is going to be a teacher? I thought all teachers were liberal programmers.... oh I bet you'll be applying at a religious academy.
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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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01-07-2007, 01:35 PM
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dom, you know that you can't use logic with some people.
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You for expample Rob... hey shouldn't you be in church or something. It is Sunday.
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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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01-07-2007, 02:00 PM
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I don't consider it damning them to anything. I feel that for many of them they can do things to get themselves out of poverty or that they could have done something to not put them in the situation to begin with. Over the long haul raising the minimum wage does not bring them out of poverty as the prices will rise along with the raise in wages. They will essentially have basically the same purchasing power as before. Really, does seven dollars an hour bring you out of a bad situation?
Ahh, but here's the difference, at least here in Missouri. Not only is the minimum wage rising, but in Missouri the raise is tied to the Consumer Price Index. Thus assuring the minimum wage earner a yearly cost of living adjustment.
Another important point is that the raise in wage went into effect here 01-01-07. Do you think Wal-Mart or Price Chopper (local grocery store) or anyone else raised prices 30%, the increase of the minimum here in MO., on 01-01-07? Or will it take them many months, maybe even years to raise prices? So for awhile the raise will help them.
You are becoming a teacher? That is great. I don't know how far away you live from this school, but I once interviewed with Rockhurst. Great school. The money would not be very good (being private), but you should put in an application there if you get a chance.
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Thanks. My wife is going back for her Masters at Rockhurst College. Once I pass the PRAXIS test and get my degree I'll be putting it in everywhere.
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01-07-2007, 02:24 PM
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I don't us this phrase very often but "MY GOD".... Dom is going to be a teacher? I thought all teachers were liberal programmers.... oh I bet you'll be applying at a religious academy.
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Are you a fucking idiot? Can you remember anything you read for more than thirty seconds? I am a teacher (AP History) and a business owner, which I have stated several times. Deadshot said he was going to be a teacher, try to follow along dipshit.
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01-07-2007, 02:35 PM
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You for expample Rob... hey shouldn't you be in church or something. It is Sunday.
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Sometimes on Sunday we just skip Church and go kick the shit out of some Liberals...............God smiles on both activities. 
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01-07-2007, 02:44 PM
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Are you a fucking idiot? Can you remember anything you read for more than thirty seconds? I am a teacher (AP History) and a business owner, which I have stated several times. Deadshot said he was going to be a teacher, try to follow along dipshit.
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Colorful colloquiallisms aside, I'm going to be a History teacher too. What's your specialty? Most of my papers and my senior Thesis involved the Holocaust and WWII.
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01-07-2007, 02:53 PM
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Colorful colloquiallisms aside, I'm going to be a History teacher too. What's your specialty? Most of my papers and my senior Thesis involved the Holocaust and WWII.
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AP European. I teach some other classes as well and am fortunate enough that admins I have worked with have let me pick special topics to teach as electives from time to time. My favorites being the Roman Republic and the Feudal Age.
In undergrad however, I also had to write a senior paper and at the time I was a US History emphasis ( I took equal amounts of classes in Europe and just chose US History at the time). I wrote on the emergence of modern America.
In Masters classes I wrote primarily on issues dealing with Rome. Particularly that I feel that Christianity brought down Rome more than any other factor.
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01-07-2007, 03:10 PM
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In Masters classes I wrote primarily on issues dealing with Rome. Particularly that I feel that Christianity brought down Rome more than any other factor.
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The undergrad class I had focused more on these of the Roman Empire . The prof emphasized the terrible leaders and corrupt governments rather than problems with Christianity. I am not sure if that is right or wrong as a conclusion, I do remember enjoying the class but being frustrated during that time because it was in the fifth year of my undergrad degree (not the schools fault  ).
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