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Old 01-05-2007, 02:55 PM
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I see. I have heard figures of up to 2.10. That is a little high for the average min-wage job, and I do oppose it, but we will see. I do recognize when some of the young mothers and/or hard cases do want to work and they climb the wage ladder fairly quickly withing in my circuit. I do know that isn't the case everywhere. I think for most business owners it is more of a control issue.
Business is about making money and having the CONTROL of all that in your hands. I don't deny that. Anything that is a threat to that is looked upon very downcast by a business owner.
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Old 01-05-2007, 03:05 PM
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Well the new minimum wage laws are gonna pass and will give all business a %41 rise in the cost of doing business.

Dems think there sticking it to business but what they dont realize they are sticking it to themselves. Do you really think those greedy businesses will eat the added cost of doing business. I dont think so. They will just pass it along right to you. Thats if they stay in business.

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>>> If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage for a 40 hour work week, you don't deserve to be in business.

But the minimum wage increase won't matter in a year anyway. It will just inflate everything and, in a year, the minimum wagers will be back to square one. That's just one of the tiny little inconsistencies of capitalism as an economic system.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:44 PM
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>>> If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage for a 40 hour work week, you don't deserve to be in business.

But the minimum wage increase won't matter in a year anyway. It will just inflate everything and, in a year, the minimum wagers will be back to square one. That's just one of the tiny little inconsistencies of capitalism as an economic system.
george you are no economic powerhouse. And please can you direct me to where it sais in the constitution that someone must receive a living wage for every forty hours theywork. I bet if you brought up the notion of a living wage to our founding fathers they would laugh in your face.

And as far as the living wage. That is what every employer does. They offer a certain amount for a certain job. If you take it then fine live with it. if they dont that is fine aswell they can live with that decision aswell.

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Old 01-05-2007, 06:07 PM
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And please can you direct me to where it sais in the constitution that someone must receive a living wage for every forty hours theywork. I bet if you brought up the notion of a living wage to our founding fathers they would laugh in your face.
And where in the Consitution does it say that we are supposed to have labor laws? And where in the Consitution does it say the education system has to supply trained employees for employers? And where does it say we are supposed to have a No CHild Left Behind program from the Federal level? And where does it say...where does it say...where does it...STOP!!! Why do you keep using this line as per the Constitution, it doesn't even make any sense. Congress passes a number of things that are not contained in the Constitution, what are you talking about?
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:24 PM
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And where in the Consitution does it say that we are supposed to have labor laws? And where in the Consitution does it say the education system has to supply trained employees for employers? And where does it say we are supposed to have a No CHild Left Behind program from the Federal level? And where does it say...where does it say...where does it...STOP!!! Why do you keep using this line as per the Constitution, it doesn't even make any sense. Congress passes a number of things that are not contained in the Constitution, what are you talking about?
Where does it say that i have to pay someone who can barely speak the english launguage even the he was born and raised in this country $15 an hour to sweep the floors just so he can live well.

The poor are poor for a reason and this has nothing to do with the minimum wage.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:29 PM
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Where does it say that i have to pay someone who can barely speak the english launguage even the he was born and raised in this country $15 an hour to sweep the floors just so he can live well.

The poor are poor for a reason and this has nothing to do with the minimum wage.
Talk to your Senators and state Rep to repeal legislation having to do with minimum wage in this country, and there are many laws that get passed by congress that are not outlined in the Constitution. This is only one.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:33 PM
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Talk to your Senators and state Rep to repeal legislation having to do with minimum wage in this country, and there are many laws that get passed by congress that are not outlined in the Constitution. This is only one.
come on cat lets not be naive heer. As much as you may think or what my ego may leed me to beleive that i can sway my local politicians to not raise minimum wage. Im afraid i cant. But you made me feal good that you think i weild so much power.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:35 PM
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a few facts about the the minimum wage....




* Average household income of a minimum wage earner: $49,885
* Proportion of minimum wage earners under 25: 53 percent
* Proportion of all adult hourly workers who are single parents working full time: 6.3 percent
* Proportion of adult minimum wage earners who are single parents working full time: 6.1 percent

For more facts on who earns the minimum wage, read:

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Who Earns the Minimum Wage--Single Parents or Suburban Teenagers?
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Minimum Wage Workers' Incomes Rise When the Minimum Wage Does Not
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Raising the Minimum Wage Hurts Vulnerable Workers' Job Prospects Without Reducing Poverty

As Congress and policy makers resume the debate over raising the minimum wage, they should ground their arguments on solid facts and expert analysis. To assist policy makers in assessing the consequences of a higher minimum wage, the Heritage Foundation has compiled a list of economic studies that question the effectiveness of minimum wages increases. Most of these papers can be accessed via JSTOR or other sites with access to academic journals.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Labor/minimumwage.cfm
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:51 PM
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come on cat lets not be naive heer. As much as you may think or what my ego may leed me to beleive that i can sway my local politicians to not raise minimum wage. Im afraid i cant. But you made me feal good that you think i weild so much power.
Write people on that particular committee who are more on the right or don't think this is such a good idea. I will say this...I have written any number of people who represent me and I do get answers back the majority of the time and I live in TN. Both of my Senators ALWAYS answer back and most of what I have written them is opposed to the way they vote. They do hear it. This past election did restore my faith in the fact that voters are listened to.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:56 PM
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Write people on that particular committee who are more on the right or don't think this is such a good idea. I will say this...I have written any number of people who represent me and I do get answers back the majority of the time and I live in TN. Both of my Senators ALWAYS answer back and most of what I have written them is opposed to the way they vote. They do hear it. This past election did restore my faith in the fact that voters are listened to.
the only reason why the dems one was because of the foley scandal. Im not complaining. All is fair in love and war........ dont you agree
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