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Old 12-24-2006, 06:41 PM
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Ahh, you forget the huge loans the U.S. government made to Mexico so that Mexico could repay our corporatists. That was just an utter fleece job.
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:08 PM
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Merry X-mas to you too. My point was that people are worth than a minimum wage. No one should be able to survive on such a low wage. A minimum wage is a stepping stone to a higher wage. Those (the 'poor') who want a higher minimum wage are typically those who have absolutely no marketable skills and won't bother to obtain any.
In this country, anybody who puts in an honest day's work should be able to survive. And that's the way it would be if Republicans 'honored' work the way they say they do.
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:40 PM
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In this country, anybody who puts in an honest day's work should be able to survive. And that's the way it would be if Republicans 'honored' work the way they say they do.


Yeah, sure... whatever you say.

There's no way I'll ever keep an employee on my payroll if that employee isn't profitable. That employee will find himself sitting outside my front door with my boot print on his butt.

BTW, this isn't a Pub/Dem issue. Its an issue of if an employee merits a minimum wage if they cannot even perform to the pay level of the prevailing minimum wage.
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:27 PM
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I don't think anybody's really interested in what a bad-ass employer you are. If you can't afford to pay your employees minimum wage, that's your problem. You can always put in the hours and do the work yourself, eh?
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:17 PM
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I don't think anybody's really interested in what a bad-ass employer you are. If you can't afford to pay your employees minimum wage, that's your problem. You can always put in the hours and do the work yourself, eh?


I don't think anyone asked what you thought of me either. I certainly haven't. Yet, you feel the need to attack me because of what I believe. So sad. Well, if you're ever in the neighborhood and have the opportunity to come by my business, please continue on without stopping in to say 'Hi'. It'd save me the trouble of throwing you out.

Have a Merry Christmas!
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:43 PM
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In this country, anybody who puts in an honest day's work should be able to survive. And that's the way it would be if Republicans 'honored' work the way they say they do.
What is the wage that would allow an honest worker to survive?
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:55 PM
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What is the wage that would allow an honest worker to survive?
About $12 an hour according to what I've heard on various news shows.
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:12 PM
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Corporations believe in entitlements as well, it called Corporate Welfare which cost American tax payers. For years, the U.S. government has been in the business of providing special benefits to individual industries and companies through tax breaks, trade policies, and spending programs.

There are several problems with this approach. The federal government has a poor record of picking industrial winners and losers, so the economic benefits that these programs are purported to create inevitably fail to materialize. Furthermore, corporate welfare programs create an uneven playing field; foster an incestuous relationship between business and government; are anti-consumer, anti-capitalist, and unconstitutional; and create a huge drain on the federal budget.

Corporate welfare is a huge drain on the federal treasury for little economic benefit. Corporate welfare is supposed to offer a positive long-term economic return for taxpayers. But the evidence shows that government "investments" have a low or negative rate of return.

In the late 1960s the federal government spent nearly $1 billion on the Supersonic Transport, which experts in Washington expected would revolutionize air travel. Instead the project went bankrupt and never flew a single passenger. In the late 1970s the federal government spent more than $2 billion of taxpayer money on the Synthetic Fuels Corporation -- a public-private project that Department of Energy officials thought would provide new sources of energy for America in the 1980s. The SFC was closed down in the 1980s, having never produced a single kilowatt of electricity.

You are comparing welfare for useless citezins with welfare for corporations that creat millions of job. so dems want to pay people to be poor. And reps want to help people not pay as much to help everyone create wealth. There is a seriouse flaw in your logic.

And please this thread is about the minimum wage. Lets keep it on track. Because it seems all you know how to do is change the subject and totally avoid the topic at hand
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:17 PM
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In this country, anybody who puts in an honest day's work should be able to survive. And that's the way it would be if Republicans 'honored' work the way they say they do.
well what you consider to be an honest days work i might consider to be a joke.
If you dont like how much money you make the make a change. If you cant and you are limited by your ability's then it is your own fault.

School is available to evryone in this country and it's sad that not many choose to utilize it. And then they point the finger at everyone else and say how life is not fair. For example look at rasta. He complains left and right about injustice but he forgets to mention the injustice he has done to himself by limiting himself.
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:18 PM
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I don't think anyone asked what you thought of me either. I certainly haven't. Yet, you feel the need to attack me because of what I believe. So sad. Well, if you're ever in the neighborhood and have the opportunity to come by my business, please continue on without stopping in to say 'Hi'. It'd save me the trouble of throwing you out.

Have a Merry Christmas!

Tell me something Ole Rex, if your business is profitable do to the labor of your employee's how do you measure how much their reward is during the year and at the end of the year?
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