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Old 12-24-2006, 01:02 AM
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we are still waiting rasta. dont change the subject
WAITING FOR WHAT GIXY?
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:06 AM
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WAITING FOR WHAT GIXY?
we are waiting for your links and proof that the community of business owners are wrong about minimum wage increases and failed businesses
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:10 AM
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we are waiting for your links and proof that the community of business owners are wrong about minimum wage increases and failed businesses
Don't even try it Gixy you nosey BITCH!, I was responding to "Unregistered" claims and your dumb ass butted in.

The ownous is on "Unregistrered" to back the claim up!

GIXY, Here's what "Unregistered" said of which no links were provided to back up the claim!!!!

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"Most small companies can't afford that kind of wage or they'll have to make do with less employees. Simple economic priciples at work."

>>>That's probably TOO simple an economic principle when you consider that those employees will have more purchasing power and that cash will go right back into the pockets of the small AND large business owners, who will then have to hire more employees. Minimum wage is a zero sum game after about one year.

Btw, there's an In-N-Out going up right near my office here. I love that place.

What you fail to see is that when you raise minimum wage the cost od the products also goes up, usually at a higher percentage than the minimum wage did, ergo giving them LESS purchasing power thus putting SMALLER companies out of business.
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:15 AM
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Don't even try it Gixy you nosey BITCH!, I was responding to "Unregistered" claims and your dumb ass butted in.

The ownous is on "Unregistrered" to back the claim up!

GIXY, Here's what "Unregistered" said of which no links were provided to back up the claim!!!!

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"Most small companies can't afford that kind of wage or they'll have to make do with less employees. Simple economic priciples at work."

>>>That's probably TOO simple an economic principle when you consider that those employees will have more purchasing power and that cash will go right back into the pockets of the small AND large business owners, who will then have to hire more employees. Minimum wage is a zero sum game after about one year.

Btw, there's an In-N-Out going up right near my office here. I love that place.

What you fail to see is that when you raise minimum wage the cost od the products also goes up, usually at a higher percentage than the minimum wage did, ergo giving them LESS purchasing power thus putting SMALLER companies out of business.
hey guy...............relax........................... .............

by the way unregistered is right. The only one to benifit from higher minimum wage is the US government via higher incom, payrol and social security tax. And states and local government via there income and sales tax.................... no one else benifts.
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Old 12-24-2006, 02:14 AM
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Face it you guys only want an environment to do business whereas all the advantages rest with the business side.

Starting with Corporate Welfare to lobbyist who buy the politicians.

As for smaller companies going out of business due to the increase in minimum, please provide PROOF! I suspect it takes more to cause businesses to go out of business than just raising the minimum raise. Perhaps these business owner "wannabes" just aren't good business men. Anyway I challange you to show some PROOF that raising the minum rage causes sm. business's to go under.

Also, the U.S. economy is a consumer driven economy, you raise miminum wage, workers now have more money to purchase perishable and durable goods.
You really don't get it so you. You just believe in entitlements and not EARNING money. If people son't like what they make somewhere then they can leave and go somehwere else. that is how you keep business in check not with government regulations.
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Old 12-24-2006, 02:18 AM
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Oh and here is your proof
http://www.nfib.com/object/3769340?_templateId=315

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/miwnimum.htm
Small businesses create 75% of new jobs annually, but they are also responsible for most job losses. That is why we must be especially careful when contemplating new financial burdens on small businesses. With so many of them so close to the edge to begin with, it often doesn't take much to push them over, destroying many jobs in the process

http://www.sbsc.org/content/display.cfm?ID=326

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/local/grm...?storyid=64802
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Old 12-24-2006, 02:24 AM
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If people son't like what they make somewhere then they can leave and go somehwere else.
That's my basic attitude. 'If you don't like who you work for, how much you make, or what you do... leave. Don't hang around b*tching and moaning, driving everyone else nuts with the whining. Go!'
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Very much agreed Rex
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:59 PM
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Well there are two sides to every argument when it comes to debating and dis-spelling the CONSERVATIVE MYTH/DOOM AND GLOOM concerning Increaseing mininum wage.

http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/we...age_maximizing


http://www.alternet.org/workplace/37935/

http://www.nathannewman.org/archives/003163.shtml
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You really don't get it so you. You just believe in entitlements and not EARNING money. If people son't like what they make somewhere then they can leave and go somehwere else. that is how you keep business in check not with government regulations.
Corporations believe in entitlements as well, it called Corporate Welfare which cost American tax payers. For years, the U.S. government has been in the business of providing special benefits to individual industries and companies through tax breaks, trade policies, and spending programs.

There are several problems with this approach. The federal government has a poor record of picking industrial winners and losers, so the economic benefits that these programs are purported to create inevitably fail to materialize. Furthermore, corporate welfare programs create an uneven playing field; foster an incestuous relationship between business and government; are anti-consumer, anti-capitalist, and unconstitutional; and create a huge drain on the federal budget.

Corporate welfare is a huge drain on the federal treasury for little economic benefit. Corporate welfare is supposed to offer a positive long-term economic return for taxpayers. But the evidence shows that government "investments" have a low or negative rate of return.

In the late 1960s the federal government spent nearly $1 billion on the Supersonic Transport, which experts in Washington expected would revolutionize air travel. Instead the project went bankrupt and never flew a single passenger. In the late 1970s the federal government spent more than $2 billion of taxpayer money on the Synthetic Fuels Corporation -- a public-private project that Department of Energy officials thought would provide new sources of energy for America in the 1980s. The SFC was closed down in the 1980s, having never produced a single kilowatt of electricity.
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