New minimum wage 7.25 ?

nathanbforrest45 · #**121** (**permalink**) 12-26-2006, 12:33 PM

George
Exactly how much do you think minimum wages should be? Also, can you tell me any links that show who is actually on minimum wage? It is my contention that minimum wage is not earned by primary wage earners (always exceptions of course) Given the fact that welfare gives families the equivelent of $35,000.00 plus per year why would anyone work for minimum wage if they need to actually live on that wage? Even the number I saw earlier of $12.00 per hour is less than $25,000.00 per year. To make better than welfare a wage earner would have to make almost $17.00 per hour.

So, who does make minimum wage in this country? Any links??

heyjude122 · #**122** (**permalink**) 12-26-2006, 11:02 PM

Nurse's aides. The people who take care of the frail elderly, the grossly deformed (gross is a medical term,extreme,etc.) the severely retarded.
Retail clerks, who have to put up with the obnoxious public.
Waitpersons, same as above. In this state they don't have to be paid but 2.50 an hr. unless their tips don't come up to the min. wage for the hours they've worked.
That's a few. There are many others. They are not 16-24 yr. olds. They are adults who care about your grandma and grandpa more than you do.

RASTAMAN · #**123** (**permalink**) 12-27-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

If I own the business all the wealth produced does beyond to me. You, as an employee, are free to choose to work for me at the wages and benefits I am offering or go elsewhere. In rational self interest I am going to offer the level of wages I need to offer to keep the best workers. Who decides what you are worth? The government? Some outside group? Who decides what is a reasonable profit for me? I do agree workers should be allowed to negotiate but not force a fair economic return. If no one else is offering higher wages then apparently you are being paid what the job is worth.

What if I am willing to work for less than you are with the idea that I would rather have a job at $10.00 an hour then no job at $15.00 an hour? Who should decide how much I should be willing to work for? On the flip side, if every employer is paying $15.00 an hour why would I be willing to work for you for $10.00 if I knew I could get a job making more money?

You act as if employees were powerless little slaves that need government to keep them from starving to death. My experience in owning my own company was if I wanted the company to grow then I had to pay the best wages I could afford to attract the best employees to help with that growth.

Oh, Merry Christmas all and Happy New Year

Well Nathan, not all business owners share your view points:

Who's Afraid of a Higher Minimum Wage?
Most Area Jobs Already Surpass Proposed Rate, but Some Predict a Trickle Up

By Michael S. Rosenwald
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 4, 2006; Page D01

Nomey Druskin, manager of the Rainbow Hair Designers at the White Flint Mall, employs six shampooers. Mostly Hispanic immigrants, they are paid at the low end of the wage scale. Druskin should be particularly interested in the Democrats' intention to raise the minimum wage when they take over Congress, right?

She's not. Druskin pays her shampooers at the North Bethesda salon a base rate of more than $8 an hour. That's higher than the federal minimum wage ($5.15), higher than Maryland's minimum wage ($6.15) and higher than what the Democrats are proposing federally ($7.25). In fact, the median hourly rate for all shampooers in the Bethesda-Gaithersburg area, according to federal statistics, is $7.48 -- above all mandated minimums.

Druskin said the shampooers at her 30-year-old salon earn what they earn -- plus tips -- for a few reasons. First and foremost, it would be inhumane to pay them less, she said, given the cost of living in the Washington region. And if she didn't pay them a decent salary, she couldn't attract good, stable help. The shampooers wouldn't smile as easily at their customers. The hair wouldn't be washed just right, and the business, which serves a high-end clientele, would suffer.

"We have to pay them enough to make them happy and for them to live happily," Druskin said. "It's a domino effect from the bottom up. We want the clients to be happy."

Read More...........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ail/components

gixaholic · #**124** (**permalink**) 12-28-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RASTAMAN

Well Nathan, not all business owners share your view points:

Who's Afraid of a Higher Minimum Wage?
Most Area Jobs Already Surpass Proposed Rate, but Some Predict a Trickle Up

By Michael S. Rosenwald
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 4, 2006; Page D01

Nomey Druskin, manager of the Rainbow Hair Designers at the White Flint Mall, employs six shampooers. Mostly Hispanic immigrants, they are paid at the low end of the wage scale. Druskin should be particularly interested in the Democrats' intention to raise the minimum wage when they take over Congress, right?

She's not. Druskin pays her shampooers at the North Bethesda salon a base rate of more than $8 an hour. That's higher than the federal minimum wage ($5.15), higher than Maryland's minimum wage ($6.15) and higher than what the Democrats are proposing federally ($7.25). In fact, the median hourly rate for all shampooers in the Bethesda-Gaithersburg area, according to federal statistics, is $7.48 -- above all mandated minimums.

Druskin said the shampooers at her 30-year-old salon earn what they earn -- plus tips -- for a few reasons. First and foremost, it would be inhumane to pay them less, she said, given the cost of living in the Washington region. And if she didn't pay them a decent salary, she couldn't attract good, stable help. The shampooers wouldn't smile as easily at their customers. The hair wouldn't be washed just right, and the business, which serves a high-end clientele, would suffer.

"We have to pay them enough to make them happy and for them to live happily," Druskin said. "It's a domino effect from the bottom up. We want the clients to be happy."

Read More...........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ail/components

funny how you post articles about what the horse is saying but when the horse tells you from his own mouth you dont beleive it

Oedipus Rex · #**125** (**permalink**) 12-28-2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gixaholic

funny how you post articles about what the horse is saying but when the horse tells you from his own mouth you dont beleive it

At least he did say "EAT-A-PUSSY REX" to you like he did to me.

gdfather02 · #**126** (**permalink**) 12-28-2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

George
Exactly how much do you think minimum wages should be? Also, can you tell me any links that show who is actually on minimum wage? It is my contention that minimum wage is not earned by primary wage earners (always exceptions of course) Given the fact that welfare gives families the equivelent of $35,000.00 plus per year why would anyone work for minimum wage if they need to actually live on that wage? Even the number I saw earlier of $12.00 per hour is less than $25,000.00 per year. To make better than welfare a wage earner would have to make almost $17.00 per hour.

So, who does make minimum wage in this country? Any links??

I am shooting for $30 an hour!

Why we keep piece-mealing this is confusing. If there are primary wage earners out there that need to make more than minimum wage, and raising it is the answer (as liberals contend), stop playing with it and just raise it so that these earners can live comfortably.

Oedipus Rex · #**127** (**permalink**) 12-28-2006, 02:14 AM

I think the problem comes down to simple economics. People tend to spend more than they earn. They can never get ahead because of their deficit spending. Then they complain about some such nonsense as a 'living wage' as a way to get themselves out of the hole. The problem then continues with more deficit spending.

gixaholic · #**128** (**permalink**) 12-28-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oedipus Rex

I think the problem comes down to simple economics. People tend to spend more than they earn. They can never get ahead because of their deficit spending. Then they complain about some such nonsense as a 'living wage' as a way to get themselves out of the hole. The problem then continues with more deficit spending.

i think you hit the nail on the head my friend. Today there was an article about how many new yorkers have to choose between paying there RENT or paying for FOOD. What they forget to mention is the choices these folks make when they are buying big screen tv's, All of the latest fashion,jewlery etc.

Being poor is a mindset and people have only themselves to blame for it.

nathanbforrest45 · #**129** (**permalink**) 12-28-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gixaholic

i think you hit the nail on the head my friend. Today there was an article about how many new yorkers have to choose between paying there RENT or paying for FOOD. What they forget to mention is the choices these folks make when they are buying big screen tv's, All of the latest fashion,jewlery etc.

Being poor is a mindset and people have only themselves to blame for it.

We are all self made men, its just that most of us refuse to accept that truth

Oedipus Rex · #**130** (**permalink**) 12-28-2006, 03:02 PM

How many people living in government housing have;

1. Cable TV
2. Cell phones
3. Mp3 players
4. More than one car
5. DVD/CD player
6. Cigarettes
7. Alcohol