Mexico is capitalistic??? George from that post it is obvious that you have no idea what true capitalism means. Business in Mexico is controlled by the government (including the drug trade). That does not equate to capitalism.

As far as China is concerned, the more China's economy acts like a capitialistic one the higher their standard of living risings. Its a very well known fact that China allowed private ownership of many small shops and businesses and when they did their economy soared.

No theories Georgie Porgie, its all facts

>>>Check out wages and working conditions in Mexico, chump.

"Business in Mexico is controlled by the government (including the drug trade). That does not equate to capitalism."

>>>Nonsense. The government of Mexico is controlled lock, stock and barrel by a very small number of "families". It exists purely to serve the interests of those families. And that's why 15,000,000 Mexicans are now residing in the US.

And you have it bass-ackwards as far as China is concerned. As its standard of living increased due to controls, small concessions to capitalism have been made. Capitalists just don't seem to understand that in order to have capitalism, you have to have capital first.

George it is the control, regardless of who is doing the controlling that puts the lie to capitalism. Mexico is not a capitalist country, at least its an oligarchy but in no way can you ever describe Mexico as a bastion of capitalism, and you are right, that is why 15 million Mexicans are living in the United States, because we do embrace capitalism more closely.

You don't know Chinese history very well George. the increase in capitalism lead to the increase in the economic condition of China, its still controlled and I am not saying China is a capitalistic country, far from it, but its move to capitalism has lead to an increase in income for the average Chinese citizen

We can do this cart/horse thang all day long, but China has a tightly controlled economy, and it's still outperforming ours. On the other hand, anything goes in Mexico - except for that 95% of the population that has no capital. I'm not denying that capitalism works very well given the right conditions. But the right conditions just aren't there for most of the world.

George
I will agree that true capitalism has never really existed. However, I sincerely believe that the closer we come to capitalism the freer we are as a people. The rate of growth of the United States was after the War of Northern Agression until around the early 1900's, the time of "unbridled capitalism". And what are the "right" conditions? Most of the time capitalism does not work because government does not allow it to work.

Also, Mexico is stagnant. The economy may be controlled by five families but at some point that wealth will decrease since those five families are not "making" money, i.e. creating new weath by creating new markets. Mexico will just be another slave state relying on stolen labor, which is not capitalism.

China is China, it always goes back to being China. At one time the Chinese were called the "Jews of the Orient" because they were the most enterprising people on the face of the earth, they were the shop owners of the Far East. China has never been controlled by an outside force and communism is an outside force. Every "conqueror" of China has evenually become Chinese in culture. Communism will be no different in the long run. Now that communism is losing its grip capitalism is coming to the fore. Perhaps one day China will be the only super power and the Middle Kingdom will control the world, but it will do so under capitalism not socialism or government control

War of Northern Agression???

Hahahaha thats hilarious (as is my spelling)

"What makes our system so great, is that you have two options: either buy it or don't buy it, a pretty simple concept if you ask me!"

Either buy groceries or buy prescriptions. Simple concept. Simple minds.