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10-16-2006, 12:51 PM
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The is NOTHING equitable about the corporate structure so don't even try. So answer this... what happens when there is no more middle class. Those are one CONSUMING and if there is a wage gap to wide then the capitalism begins to decay. And with the US falling behind in education there is no guarantee that there will be a movement from un-skilled to skilled middle class.
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10-16-2006, 01:06 PM
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The is NOTHING equitable about the corporate structure so don't even try. So answer this... what happens when there is no more middle class. Those are one CONSUMING and if there is a wage gap to wide then the capitalism begins to decay. And with the US falling behind in education there is no guarantee that there will be a movement from un-skilled to skilled middle class.
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in your previouse post i asked you to please elaborate and you told me to stick to the issues. So i did. I stuck to this issues and i pretty much gave you the answer. And now that i have done that you totaly change the subject. Claiming it to be non equitble when it gives you the ansewer you wanted so now is ask you NAZI WHY DONT YOU STICK TO THE ISSUE'S
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10-16-2006, 05:43 PM
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Why do liberals think it is their business how much a company pays its valued employees. CEOs get paid alot because they are good at making their company profitable and are therefore quite valuable. Its kinda like the way a football team pays their quarterback alot of money because without a good quarterback, the team is unlikely to be successful. It all boils down to the fact that liberals think everybody should get the same thing, and if somebody has more, that isnt fair. I personally think that liberals never grow out of the preschool mentality in that respect. It's snack time, and the teacher is handing out grahm crackers to all the kids. But wait a second, that kid has way more grahm crackers than me, that is unfair. Liberals cant seem to grasp that the teacher is no longer the only source of grahm crackers. There are many many boxes of grahm crackers out there, you just have to grow up a little bit, and go get them. Just because somebody has more grahm crackers than you, doesnt mean he stole them from your pile, or anybody elses for that matter.
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10-16-2006, 07:06 PM
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Why do liberals think it is their business how much a company pays its valued employees. CEOs get paid alot because they are good at making their company profitable and are therefore quite valuable. Its kinda like the way a football team pays their quarterback alot of money because without a good quarterback, the team is unlikely to be successful. It all boils down to the fact that liberals think everybody should get the same thing, and if somebody has more, that isnt fair. I personally think that liberals never grow out of the preschool mentality in that respect. It's snack time, and the teacher is handing out grahm crackers to all the kids. But wait a second, that kid has way more grahm crackers than me, that is unfair. Liberals cant seem to grasp that the teacher is no longer the only source of grahm crackers. There are many many boxes of grahm crackers out there, you just have to grow up a little bit, and go get them. Just because somebody has more grahm crackers than you, doesnt mean he stole them from your pile, or anybody elses for that matter.
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It's my business because it's MY government who has to swoop in and bail them out ie (Enron.) Again, I work at an upper level in the corporate structure and I can tell you this... there are thousands of other Enron's out there and the upper management always get their golden parachutes and the little guy loses his pension. Good men... pole men doing their jobs for 30 years and now they have nothing!!! So when these dirt bags take insane salaries I take notice.
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10-16-2006, 09:58 PM
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It's my business because it's MY government who has to swoop in and bail them out ie (Enron.) Again, I work at an upper level in the corporate structure and I can tell you this... there are thousands of other Enron's out there and the upper management always get their golden parachutes and the little guy loses his pension. Good men... pole men doing their jobs for 30 years and now they have nothing!!! So when these dirt bags take insane salaries I take notice.
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You are so full of shit. Theres is no way you can prove your position in any company at any level. so until then we will call this the nazi lie
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10-16-2006, 10:06 PM
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You are so full of shit. Theres is no way you can prove your position in any company at any level. so until then we will call this the nazi lie
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What would you like? My position? I won't tell you the company...
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10-16-2006, 11:09 PM
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What would you like? My position? I won't tell you the company...
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Your position is a vicious class envy.
Your position says no matter what effort it took to become an engineer, inventor, surgeon, architect, judge or CEO and head of a multinational corporation, the top dog, the head honcho, the big cahouna, The Man - no matter how many years experience, how much the effort and determination these accomplished people EARNED to succeed, they should feel some kind of guilt for their success.
Some kind of embarrassment for the their EARNED wealth.
Somehow these successful, ambitous and expert human beings should feel somekind of obligation to give of themselves, to the likes of you, a hater.
The despiser of merit and worth.
The jealous envious master of "GIMMIE SOME".
You've already established your position nazi hater, this forum knows well who you are because you have made it your point to establish it.
You don't know your own worth because you're too busy determinating everybody elses worth and then make your own accounting based on a legislated redistribution of the merits of others.
This hater is the most dispicable of human kind, you who puts a price on the worth of your betters.
GFYS hater.
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10-16-2006, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right
It's my business because it's MY government who has to swoop in and bail them out ie (Enron.) Again, I work at an upper level in the corporate structure and I can tell you this... there are thousands of other Enron's out there and the upper management always get their golden parachutes and the little guy loses his pension. Good men... pole men doing their jobs for 30 years and now they have nothing!!! So when these dirt bags take insane salaries I take notice.
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These good men decided to gamble with their own funds.
Its the chance one takes when you gamble.
Investments are always 'chance'.
It is never a guarrantee, there is no insurance for bad investments.
Saving money is a guarantee.
Locking funds in an interest time deposit account is a sure shot.
Ultimately buying property is almost always safe investing.
Saving money and socking it away is a guarranttee it will be there when you retire.
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10-16-2006, 11:21 PM
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Your position is a vicious class envy.
Your position says no matter what effort it took to become an engineer, inventor, surgeon, architect, judge or CEO and head of a multinational corporation, the top dog, the head honcho, the big cahouna, The Man - no matter how many years experience, how much the effort and determination these accomplished people EARNED to succeed, they should feel some kind of guilt for their success.
Some kind of embarrassment for the their EARNED wealth.
Somehow these successful, ambitous and expert human beings should feel somekind of obligation to give of themselves, to the likes of you, a hater.
The despiser of merit and worth.
The jealous envious master of "GIMMIE SOME".
You've already established your position nazi hater, this forum knows well who you are because you have made it your point to establish it.
You don't know your own worth because you're too busy determinating everybody elses worth and then make your own accounting based on a legislated redistribution of the merits of others.
This hater is the most dispicable of human kind, you who puts a price on the worth of your betters.
GFYS hater.
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You fucking idiot... you make no sense because you don't know me... honey. I am apart of the corporate American structure and make six figures a year. I am college and post college graduate i.e... a massive achiever.
The problem is that I work in a nice office with air and frigs and horse shoes at lunch. I make a large sum but then I see the plant workers who live by completely different corporate rules than I do and make a fraction of what I do and have no health plan (I do), but they slave away all day in a hot factory. Is that equitable? I'm not so sure.
Bottom line is that you know nothing about me but you decided to mouth off an now you look stupid. Short of sending you my W2 from last year I would give you any information that you would like. dummy.
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10-16-2006, 11:46 PM
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You fucking idiot... you make no sense because you don't know me... honey. I am apart of the corporate American structure and make six figures a year. I am college and post college graduate i.e... a massive achiever.
The problem is that I work in a nice office with air and frigs and horse shoes at lunch. I make a large sum but then I see the plant workers who live by completely different corporate rules than I do and make a fraction of what I do and have no health plan (I do), but they slave away all day in a hot factory. Is that equitable? I'm not so sure.
Bottom line is that you know nothing about me but you decided to mouth off an now you look stupid. Short of sending you my W2 from last year I would give you any information that you would like. dummy.
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AH! The apologist appears!
What a friggin' surprize.
These work horses decided to skip the degrees and years of scholarship.
These workers know who theyare , they are not corporate and don't expect to be paid your salary nor do honest men expect you to give away half of yours.
These workers take pride in their work, some of them, and live a good, productive, honest life.
They don't gamble this money, for these workers saving is the virtue of the day!
Why do you degrade the staff nazi?
Is there not merit and worth in these jobs?
How 'elite' of you to pity these poor working stiffs eh?
These days if you're doing 'anything' in an "American Corporate Structure" you're getting benefits.
I say there are people across the states who would adore the opportunity to invest their efforts in an "American Corporate Structure".
We have millions of immigrants snatching up these 'slave' positions and profitting, buying SUVs and homes.
Like I said nazi...GFYS!
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