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09-12-2008, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cedenot
Let's see:
With Bush's choices for the Supreme Court my second amendment rights won't be tampered with for the forseable future.
No more cities have been blown up after Clinton's time bomb blew up.
My federal income taxes are lower than they've been for many years.
I can rest easy at night knowing that our country is protected.
I made a ton of money in real estate over the past 8 years and was smart enough to time out the inevitable downward trend.
My index funds have done well over the years.
My wife in the military has gotten a raise every year.
My daughters education is improved thanks to No Child Left Behind.
Overall, my financial security is in good shape because of low capital gains taxes and low federal income taxes.
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Are you saying you couldn't own a gun until a year ago? What kind of gun did you desire to have that you were prohibited from owning; the automatic with cop killer bullets so you could do armed robberies? The cannon with armor piercing shells so you can take out the armored van carrying the cash to ATMs?
al qaeda was actually funded and trained under Reagan-Bush who thought that terrorists would only attack the Russians.
Your lower income taxes transfer the cost of your services to your grand children.
Thinking the US is protected shows you have been deluded; if a natural disaster hits, you are on your own because the taxes you pay in your state to fund the national guard are being wasted losing in Iraq.
Your real estate transactions are deadweight losses to the economy and transferred the wealth of others to you, with the cost of your gain several times higher.
I would be surprised if your index funds have done well during the Bush administration, most likely worse than during the Clinton years, unless you were heavily weighted in NASDAQ and related indexes seeking greedy profits at highly leveraged risk such as pets.com.
Your wife's income is a wealth transfer from your grand children.
Your daughter will really need to do well because she will bare a much higher burden picking up the costs that you haven't been and begin to repay Reagan's debt.
Yes, you can thank future generations for their generousity, or perhaps they will blame you for putting a massive weight on them by voting for Bush and cheerfully praising the great wealth transfer you and he did from your unborn grand children.
Of course, your daughter could immigrate to China, or marry a Saudi prince.
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09-12-2008, 04:01 AM
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Particularly for those of you voting for McCain I'm curious about this. Maybe you have a healthy dividend that you like not having taxed, but if not, I'm just wondering how you feel your life has been personally affected by Bush policies and why they make you eager for more of the same.
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Not every much at all. Just the way I like it.
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09-14-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey
Particularly for those of you voting for McCain I'm curious about this. Maybe you have a healthy dividend that you like not having taxed, but if not, I'm just wondering how you feel your life has been personally affected by Bush policies and why they make you eager for more of the same.
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The fact that I had to endure neither Gore NOR Kerry was an unforeseen improvement, and, the fact that I'll have to listen to neither a dumb nigger nor a cackley, wrinkled up lesbian throwing out racial slurs every other sentence for the next four years, makes McCain the only worthwhile choice this time around. Now go get a life fudge packer.

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09-14-2008, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jacob
The fact that I had to endure neither Gore NOR Kerry was an unforeseen improvement, and, the fact that I'll have to listen to neither a dumb nigger nor a cackley, wrinkled up lesbian throwing out racial slurs every other sentence for the next four years, makes McCain the only worthwhile choice this time around. Now go get a life fudge packer.

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Clearly the past quarter century has served to increase your accumulated sense of worthlessness and hatred to imagined oppressors. Clearly things haven't been working out for you.
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09-14-2008, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey
Particularly for those of you voting for McCain I'm curious about this. Maybe you have a healthy dividend that you like not having taxed, but if not, I'm just wondering how you feel your life has been personally affected by Bush policies and why they make you eager for more of the same.
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That you Liberals have been miserable for more than 7 years? A:
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09-14-2008, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Canebreaker
Any president that gives me back all of the federal taxes I pay every year is a good one. Bush has been doing just that. Also, I'm much better off financially than I was during the Clinton debacle and I don't even work any longer.
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Um.....you're not getting your taxes back. You're getting FORCED TAX LOANS that your CHILDREN will have to pay back AT INTEREST.
It never fails to amaze me how idiotic conservatives are when it comes to economics.
FACT: It is IMPOSSIBLE to cut taxes when you're in deficit spending. You can lower the percentage of the taxes being collected, but that just leaves you screwed. It's like getting $5 less an hour when you have a mortgage to pay off.
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09-14-2008, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey
Particularly for those of you voting for McCain I'm curious about this. Maybe you have a healthy dividend that you like not having taxed, but if not, I'm just wondering how you feel your life has been personally affected by Bush policies and why they make you eager for more of the same.
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I am voting for Obama. Bush policies have put me in a position that I am not allowed to use the airways for transportation and my personal lines communication are listened to, I have had to give up my accounting business as i had clients who worked in the ME and I can not get a passport to even leave this nation, not that I want to yet.
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09-15-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Positive
That you Liberals have been miserable for more than 7 years? A:
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Ah, I see you're in my home town... well I don't blame you for being mad. I'm sure I'd be similarly aggravated if I lived in a city as red as Seattle is blue.
We should get together and have screaming fights some time.
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09-15-2008, 07:13 PM
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That you Liberals have been miserable for more than 7 years? A:
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Well, that has already come to an end, and the only problem has been the fact that it takes four years to replace those in the Senate that need to be replaced. In 2006, only the relatively few Republicans elected in as part of the Bush-Gore election could be swept out. But this year, the Republicans elected in response to promised of war on Iraq being a profitable war and one that would remake the world, with those who objected to the world being weak and unpatriotic, get to be thrown out like the bad guest invited over too many drinks and has now overstayed their welcome.
Conservatives has been given a chance to prove their ideas work, and the result has been a raft of financial WMDs planted like IEDs all over the nation. Time for a War on Moral Hazard which takes out the terrorists who claim to be "free market capitalists" who are reaping great profit from sowing destruction.
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09-15-2008, 09:25 PM
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A reason to voteionly on the issues
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Originally Posted by mulp
Well, that has already come to an end, and the only problem has been the fact that it takes four years to replace those in the Senate that need to be replaced. In 2006, only the relatively few Republicans elected in as part of the Bush-Gore election could be swept out. But this year, the Republicans elected in response to promised of war on Iraq being a profitable war and one that would remake the world, with those who objected to the world being weak and unpatriotic, get to be thrown out like the bad guest invited over too many drinks and has now overstayed their welcome.
Conservatives has been given a chance to prove their ideas work, and the result has been a raft of financial WMDs planted like IEDs all over the nation. Time for a War on Moral Hazard which takes out the terrorists who claim to be "free market capitalists" who are reaping great profit from sowing destruction.
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THE FRUITS OF DEREGULATION.
When the deregulation myth was swallowed it set up the condition of lack of oversight in many industries. every one that became deregulated went through the implanting of greed and went from service oriented industries to bottom line industries. they became self destructive because the rules were removed along with the protection against profiteering.
An example is the air line industry. Before deregulation there were guarantees. An airline had to take a less profitable route to get a good destination. That balanced the service among larger cities, and smaller ones. All of the lines were playing on a level field which allowed them all to make a profit.
Deregulation then allowed new airlines, and discount airlines to jump into only the high profit markets, which put unfair pressure on the existing larger established lines. That put thel arger established lines at a great competitive disadvantage so they started dropping smaller cities and playing the fare games that has been destroying them ever since.
Ceo's were given a free ride and got options, bonuses, etc even though allowing the company to falter. On top of that severance pay and golden parachutes further weakened the company and caused eventual failure. But those same Ceo's left the company taking millions with them only to move on to another company in which they did the same thing.
In the mean time the workers and general stock holders were left in the cold with nothing.
That process has been repeated in industry after another. savings and Loans, trucking, energy, on and on and on. Lost pensions, lost health care, wage give backs, increased health care cost and less service.
Oh, jobs going out of country with the tax base with it. Workers can not afford higher educations without job security in today's market, and that is why the outsourcing is looking elsewhere for skilled workers in high tech areas. We all should be ticked over the lack of over sight. Now the financial giants like the savings in loan has threatened America's stability and future generations.
Now, lets all go out and vote on the issues, and not on fear and lipstick
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